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Postby op-sec » 10 Feb 2008 22:29

mitch.capper wrote:You can't cut diamonds, what are you talking about?

Of course it takes a long time to find the exact diamond you want, thats why large groups of small children dig for years finding diamonds. Sometimes their fingers get cut though (as diamonds are also sharp [Why do you think the pointy part is always going down in the ring]) and then bleed, thus the reason diadmonds from small children are called blood diamonds.


OK. That is the most ridiculous statement of supposed fact that I have ever heard.

Blood Diamonds, also known as "conflict diamonds" are called such because they are diamonds that originate from areas controlled by forces or factions opposed to legitimate and internationally recognized governments, and are used to fund military action in opposition to those governments, or in contravention of the decisions of the UN Security Council.

Diamonds can be cut, sawed, cleaved, brunted and polished. They are cut with chisels, other diamonds and even lasers.

A raw diamond doesn't even remotely resemble a finished diamond and is very unlikely to have any sharp edges at all.

Here is a RAW diamond:
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A master of Google you must not be but you surely are a master of bull$h!t. Sheesh.
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Postby Beyond » 10 Feb 2008 23:14

op-sec wrote:
mitch.capper wrote:You can't cut diamonds, what are you talking about?

Of course it takes a long time to find the exact diamond you want, thats why large groups of small children dig for years finding diamonds. Sometimes their fingers get cut though (as diamonds are also sharp [Why do you think the pointy part is always going down in the ring]) and then bleed, thus the reason diadmonds from small children are called blood diamonds.


OK. That is the most ridiculous statement of supposed fact that I have ever heard.

Blood Diamonds, also known as "conflict diamonds" are called such because they are diamonds that originate from areas controlled by forces or factions opposed to legitimate and internationally recognized governments, and are used to fund military action in opposition to those governments, or in contravention of the decisions of the UN Security Council.

Diamonds can be cut, sawed, cleaved, brunted and polished. They are cut with chisels, other diamonds and even lasers.

A raw diamond doesn't even remotely resemble a finished diamond and is very unlikely to have any sharp edges at all.

Here is a RAW diamond:
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A master of Google you must not be but you surely are a master of bull$h!t. Sheesh.


Haha, your BS detector went off the charts didn't it?

Great post.
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Postby dougfarre » 11 Feb 2008 0:21

Um, I think you are a little confused. I did a search on "diamonds" and this is obviously what a diamond looks like
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I found what you are looking at, its called quartz, its a very common mineral.
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Postby mh » 11 Feb 2008 0:32

op-sec wrote:OK. That is the most ridiculous statement of supposed fact that I have ever heard.


Yes, but this thread is apparently meant as a joke, albeit a rather strange one...

Cheers,
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Postby mitch.capper » 11 Feb 2008 19:35

Doug is correct what you pictured is called quartz and is very cuttable! What we were talking about earlier were REAL TRUE diamonds. Not fake diamonds made from materials that can be cut. Now you may have seen some diamonds that you are like WOW NO WAY IS THAT NOT CUT IT LOOKS JUST LIKE ELVIS. First of all some of these diamonds are actually real raw diamonds found in the wild and DO LOOK LIKE ELVIS. Sometimes however they are fakes as elvis looking items sell for a lot on ebay (I think some toast that looked like elvis sold for over $100 and I heard you could cut it with a butter knife, just think how much something a butter knife couldn't cut that looked like elvis would be worth!). Fake diamonds are created using cubic zirconium which is a liquid carbon that is poured into molds of whatever you want and then microwaved for 45 seconds to a minute on very high ( a setting most household microwaves do not have, but some say if you use two microwaves with the doors off you can replicate it).

Aside from that blood diamonds actually originally referred to any place children were mining the diamonds all day but after James Bond Die Another Day they changed it to the meaning you gave. Several people still refer to their diamond rings as being blood diamonds because they haven't seen the movie yet.


Proof things that look like other stuff sell for junk:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=44986


Now finally there is the myth that diamonds can be cut with lasers. Unfortunately this is just not true. Lasers are just lots of light, its like a very powerful flashlight, there is no way light can cut bread, much less a diamond! (although may make bread look like elvis).

It has been theorized that very large rail guns can cut through diamonds as Rail Guns use Plasma Charged Super Matter so it may work.

Very smart Scientists (Albert Einstein originally purposed the idea) think that it will take atleast a 30 megajoule rail gun in order to shoot through a diamond of decent thickness.

This is very important as recently some of America's enemies (russia) have started construction on diamond fortified buildings. Because of this the navy recently installed an 8 megajoule laser (for small scale testing) and hopes to have a 32 megajoule laser ready soon, so that they can bust through the russian buildings. The full story is at:
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,160195,00.html

Hopefully this clears up the confusion.
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Postby mh » 12 Feb 2008 0:15

mitch.capper wrote:then microwaved for 45 seconds to a minute on very high ( a setting most household microwaves do not have, but some say if you use two microwaves with the doors off you can replicate it).


We have children here.

DO NOT manipulate microwaves to make them operate with the doors open. It will kill you. That wouldn't be cool.


For all the other facts mentioned, here's more proof: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/

Cheers,
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Postby SnowyBoy » 12 Feb 2008 7:56

See that combination lock......well I was at a car boot sale the other day & I picked up a really horrid chinese rip off of the master version.

The outer case could be compared to the strength of a coke can, the shackle travel whilst locked can be measures in inches, & If you simply pull on the shackle whilst randomly turning the dial it will open!

I'm going to take it apart later.....shouldn't be too hard. My friend suggested blowing on it.

If I can be bothered & I get time, I will post the butchery pics ;)
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Postby dougfarre » 12 Feb 2008 10:37

SnowyBoy wrote:See that combination lock......well I was at a car boot sale the other day & I picked up a really horrid chinese rip off of the master version.

The outer case could be compared to the strength of a coke can, the shackle travel whilst locked can be measures in inches, & If you simply pull on the shackle whilst randomly turning the dial it will open!

I'm going to take it apart later.....shouldn't be too hard. My friend suggested blowing on it.

If I can be bothered & I get time, I will post the butchery pics ;)


What are you talking about?
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