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Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Mar 2021 21:10

Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

But, ummm... when the lock opens, the back cover should not come off! :mrgreen:

I will say that there is a very, very easy way to open them without key or combination. Fast, too.

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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby prevariikation » 1 Mar 2021 23:28

GWiens2001 wrote:But, ummm... when the lock opens, the back cover should not come off! :mrgreen:

You just need one of the extra-extra-special models where everything is spring-loaded! :P

Are you able to talk about opening without key/combo in the open forums? I originally brainstormed some percussive opening methods but couldn't get them to work (which is good for the long-term health of my locks.)
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby femurat » 2 Mar 2021 4:07

Very interesting video, prevariikation, thank you for sharing this little trick you found!

Cheers :)
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby imidazol97 » 7 Dec 2022 20:20

I have a Gougler keyless school lock from the 70s from a school where I taught. It has a key slot on the back as well.
I have forgotten the combination code from months of having it just hang on the hasp on the
storage barn. I oiled it. I've studied the several posts about Gouglers on forums, but no
luck in getting the combination back.

It has 541 on the shackle and nothing else on the body of the lock.

Can anyone help me get this lock working again. It's an antique!
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby GWiens2001 » 7 Dec 2022 20:44

The code on the shackle from a master key override Gougler is not the same as the code for a non-keyed Gougler.

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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby drdro » 4 Dec 2024 10:56

Hello, I am asking for help opening my Gougler Keyless lock that I used to use a few decades ago but forgot the combination. The shackle ID is 9142. There is another number on the body of the lock and that is 2108.
Thank you in advance for your help!
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby Rockyowen4 » 24 Mar 2025 17:38

Hello, I know this is an old thread, hoping someone can help. I inherited my brother’s lock collection when he passed 7 years ago and am just going through them now. He has a Gougler Keyless but sadly he didn’t leave me the combination. I’ve watched videos to try and “see” the movement as I turn dial but ya, that’s not working for me. I see nothing. I do understand the numbers on the front don’t mean anything, it’s the number of clicks. How would I know if it is 3 or 4 digit combination? how would I know if I start by turning to left or right? Even better, is there a way I can get the combination from somewhere? This has two numbers on the shackle: 8238 and 1361 (which looks like a newer stamp). If a pic is needed I can post. Thank you
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby FranklyFlawless » 24 Mar 2025 22:11

Yes, please provide a photo of the lock.
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby Rockyowen4 » 26 Mar 2025 21:17

Here are photos
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby FranklyFlawless » 1 Apr 2025 23:45

It looks like you will need to learn how to decode the rotary combination lock, so here is my suggestion, along with assumptions:
  1. Rotate the dial clockwise three times, then choose a number.
  2. Rotate the dial counterclockwise to the number you chose earlier, start applying continous heavy tension pulling upwards from the shackle, then continue rotating the dial counterclockwise until the dial becomes incredibly difficult to move, up to the number you chosed. If there is no difficulty moving the dial within one rotation, go back to step 1 and choose a different number until exhaustion.
  3. Bruteforce the last number by rotating the dial clockwise, up to one full rotation, and lifting the shackle with each individual number until the lock opens.
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby prevariikation » 8 Apr 2025 10:35

Rockyowen4 wrote:This has two numbers on the shackle: 8238 and 1361 (which looks like a newer stamp). If a pic is needed I can post. Thank you

Worth trying this combination: 5R-5L-7R. Begin by either turning left until the dial hard stops, or (more likely) turning right 3 full rotations and beginning the count from the pointer at the upright zero position. Thank you for the photos :D

FranklyFlawless wrote:It looks like you will need to learn how to decode the rotary combination lock, so here is my suggestion, along with assumptions:
  1. Rotate the dial clockwise three times, then choose a number.
  2. Rotate the dial counterclockwise to the number you chose earlier, start applying continous heavy tension pulling upwards from the shackle, then continue rotating the dial counterclockwise until the dial becomes incredibly difficult to move, up to the number you chosed. If there is no difficulty moving the dial within one rotation, go back to step 1 and choose a different number until exhaustion.
  3. Bruteforce the last number by rotating the dial clockwise, up to one full rotation, and lifting the shackle with each individual number until the lock opens.

I don't mean to be rude, but I'm confused how you concluded that this procedure applies to this lock. Reading back fully in this thread, as well as examining other threads on the forum, would show that the construction of these locks is unlike the "standard" three-wheel combination lock with fence. There's no connection between the (shackle and locking lug) and (stylus assembly and labyrinth) until the final move in the combination, and applying tension to the shackle while rotating the dial reveals no information.
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Re: Gougler Keyless and Old Keys From Estate Sale Today!

Postby FranklyFlawless » 14 May 2025 16:28

I do not possess this lock, so I am providing a suggestion and assumptions based on what is proven to work from my own experience.
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