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List of security pins in locks.

Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.

Postby vision688 » 6 Nov 2007 21:36

nice post keep going
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Postby dougfarre » 1 Dec 2007 0:12

Would it be safe to say that if you put spool pins for every driver pin then the lock might have trouble functioning? Is that why when you have spool pins, there is always at least one pin who is shaped normally, or at least serrated (which is more normally shaped then spool)..
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Postby Afisch » 1 Dec 2007 4:38

I belive so, yes, with all 5 or so spools the lock would turn slightly as soon as it was moved at all, such as inserting the key. I also think that it may make the lock easier to pick. You would instantly know where the spools were and they may just bind like normal pins. Simply further from the upright.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 31 Dec 2007 13:27

I have always been told that the first driver must be a standard. But I have seen usuage of driffent looking spools like in abus's that hae only a small bore around the top and bottom to have all spools in the lock.

Then again i have seen standard drivers and serrated or spool key pins to take the place of a security driver.

I guess it's more application based than anything.
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Postby guest5999 » 10 Jan 2008 23:50

There is no need for a "standard" pick stock in a lock.

I've bought several locks with security pins in every chamber. I've got 3 Brinks locks with all 6 spool/serrated top pins and all 6 serrated bottom pins and they work like butter. I've also bought Master locks and standalone Master cylinders that came with all 5 tops spooled.

For anyone that's interested, they are Brinks Series 527 and Master No. 911.
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Postby op-sec » 10 Feb 2008 23:04

I think the Master #911 and #930 are both easier to pick with 5 spools than they are with a mix. Just to prove it to myself, I repinned both simply changing a few of the spools out for normal pins. Much harder to pick when I did that.
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Postby Tsen » 16 Feb 2008 21:32

Here's a cheap Ace Hardware deadbolt.
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Two spools, no serrated.
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Postby Gibraltar » 20 Feb 2008 20:36

Schlage model b360 with ANSI grade2 , 4 spool pins

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Postby dougfarre » 20 Feb 2008 22:38

Thats why I love em.
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Postby Safety0ff » 11 Mar 2008 13:26

Brinks d2642-619
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Postby bumber » 13 Apr 2008 1:40

Safety0ff wrote:Brinks d2642-619


can we get a picture of that lock please i cant find anything on ''Brinks d2642-619''....or maby what kind of lock it is i.e. brass, laminated etc. thanks :)
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Brinks and Masterlock

Postby Ofnir1 » 13 Apr 2008 4:23

I just got 2 new padlocks, Masterlock 142 and Brinks 101-40001. Haven't taken any of them apart yet, both say they have security pins (spools on the Brinks, not sure about the Masterlock). I've been able to get both of them open with a single rake quite a few times already.

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Postby Safety0ff » 13 Apr 2008 6:31

bumber wrote:
Safety0ff wrote:Brinks d2642-619


can we get a picture of that lock please i cant find anything on ''Brinks d2642-619''....or maby what kind of lock it is i.e. brass, laminated etc. thanks :)

Here's some images from my photobucket:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93 ... cede2a.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93 ... 88a362.jpg (Furthest one on the left.)
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93 ... f2bad6.jpg }
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93 ... 337b17.jpg } (Trying to
show the plug bevels.)
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Postby bumber » 24 Apr 2008 1:31

Safety0ff wrote:Brinks d2642-619, Here's some images from my photobucket:


Thanks for the pics I just now saw them :lol: But ya I hate brinks cause all their models are like xxx-xxxxx mixed up with letters and numbers :evil:
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Postby CV » 24 Apr 2008 9:05

this is really useful
thank you all!
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