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by Luissen » 14 Feb 2013 22:50
I have what I think is a Masterlock Model 3 Padlock and another that is stamped no2 that I've been playing with for a few weeks now. the master 3 clone I can consistently get in ~3 minutes but the other one is constantly stumping me. Since I have short fingers, I feel like I have to hold the padlocks "European style" with the pins at the bottom to be able to pick comfortably. I'll likely be looking for cheap non-padlocks to try the SPP exercise in the FAQ section
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by torugl » 15 Feb 2013 14:33
Had a "battle" with some of my TrioVing locks today. (From the left) a 6-pin one. I think its a 5520. The keyway makes it a god challange. And two 7-pins ones. This was quite a challage... A bit more open keyway on this ones. And I did some handcuffs, for a little weekend fun.. Shimmed and picked. 
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by Luissen » 16 Feb 2013 19:04
Those locks are interesting. Is there a difference when picking a non-padlock with the plug flush?
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by torugl » 17 Feb 2013 6:15
I am sorry, but I do not quite understand the question.
If you are thinking of the orientation I took the picture. Vertikal vs. horisontal. There is no difference. It is just the way I took the picture. And I sometimes pick this way to alternate a bit. Just to change working possission, when practising for longer periods of time. Normaly I pick the locks the way it is installed. With the pinstacks horisontal. If I am not holding it in the hand.
If you can specify the question a little bit. I will be happy to reply in more detail.
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by GWiens2001 » 17 Feb 2013 10:43
I believe he is referring to a deadbolt type lock, as opposed to a padlock. With most padlocks, the plug is recessed below at least one layer of metal, whereas in the Scandinavian ovals, euro profiles, deadbolts or mortises, the plug is flush with the face of the lock cylinder.
There is no real difference in picking, other than your tension wrench does not have to reach so far to reach the plug, and many padlocks ha a spring you must fight when turning the plug.
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by torugl » 17 Feb 2013 11:14
Ah.. In that case I agree. There is no difference in picking. Beside what you said.  )
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by loganism » 19 Feb 2013 15:58
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by mhole » 20 Feb 2013 18:55
Wowser - that looks insane! Am I seeing it right - 2 shearlines?
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by Solomon » 20 Feb 2013 20:00
Nasty! Corbin master ring? Very well done, that counter milling looks evil. 
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by loganism » 22 Feb 2013 1:14
Yes mhole you are seeing it correctly; Corbing Master Ring cylinders have 2 shear lines with that plug within a plug design. The advantage of this is that when pinned correctly the number of possable Master key setup can be greatly increased with out compromising security Add that to the fact that they typically have fairly tight tolerances and it makes them a really neat old lock that can be relatively tough to pick.. Master Rings are quite possably my favorite locks and I was suprised to find how little detailed information there is about them around but there is a Corbin Manual pdf. kicking around the internet that is very informative. Solomon: I'm glad you like it; it is indeed evil and a ton of fun to pick but what a tough one, and I haven't even replaced the build up pins with spools and serrated pins yet Perhaps once I can get it picked in a short enough time for me to be satisfied posting to youtube, I will then up the ante by doing so.
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by GWiens2001 » 23 Feb 2013 18:41
Got home from work today 25 minutes ago and received an eagerly expected package with 3 Lockwood V7 locks. No keys, but therein lies the fun.  5 minutes to greet the family first (or else!!!), then set up the vice. 15 minutes later... Now time for to take a shower before I stink out the family. Then I'll tackle the other two and try making some keys, unless somebody here has or can get some Lockwood V7 blanks. Gordon P.S. If you can get the correct blanks, please PM me! I want to get three, if possible. GW
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by phrygianradar » 24 Feb 2013 2:23
Nice picking Gordon! I want one!  I hope you can get your keys, would love to see them.
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by GWiens2001 » 24 Feb 2013 8:43
phrygianradar wrote:Nice picking Gordon! I want one!  I hope you can get your keys, would love to see them.
Thank you. I hope to get one, too. A KW1 blank (yes, a standard Kwikset key) can be modified to fit and work in this lock. But the lock loses some of the coolness factor if, when showing it to someone, it has a Kwikset key sticking out of it. There is a topic here on LP101 that has pictures of the keys. Scroll down and you will see both the profile and top views. Unfortunately, I don't know how to shoot directly to a specific post  . If anyone can tell me how, please do so! http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14504&start=0Gordon
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by Pickmequick » 24 Feb 2013 11:13
GWiens2001 wrote: Unfortunately, I don't know how to shoot directly to a specific post  . If anyone can tell me how, please do so! Gordon
Click the little paper looking icon at the very top left of the post then copy the url like this. CLICK ME
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by GWiens2001 » 24 Feb 2013 11:56
Pickmequick wrote:GWiens2001 wrote: Unfortunately, I don't know how to shoot directly to a specific post  . If anyone can tell me how, please do so! Gordon
Click the little paper looking icon at the very top left of the post then copy the url like this. CLICK ME
Thanks, Pickmequick. Gordon
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