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List of security pins in locks.

Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.

Postby Safety0ff » 24 Apr 2008 9:41

Bump just to roll over the topic.
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Postby brucsds » 26 Apr 2008 19:42

surprised nobody posted the "pin in pin" pins, or otherwise know telescopic pins. Not exactly security pins, but still good to look in to

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/mul-t-lock/

take a look :P
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Postby Kaotik » 26 Apr 2008 21:59

That's the reason in which they were not listed in this thread, because they are not security pins. They are standard pins for Mul-T-Lock, and as most of us know they can be difficult enough to pick without security pins within them. :)
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Postby brucsds » 29 Apr 2008 9:19

I never thought of that! do they apply any security features to the pin in pin system? i´ve never heard of a serrated, os spool pin in pin lock, but i wouldnt be surprised :p
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American 5200

Postby slozinsky » 3 Jun 2008 14:32

Here is an American 5200 series - The serrated driver pins came out as they are pictured, two are one way, two are the other way.

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Re: Brinks and Masterlock

Postby djslacker » 7 Jul 2008 10:26

Ofnir1 wrote:I just got 2 new padlocks, Masterlock 142 and Brinks 101-40001. Haven't taken any of them apart yet, both say they have security pins (spools on the Brinks, not sure about the Masterlock). I've been able to get both of them open with a single rake quite a few times already.

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The Brinks padlock that is pictured is the lock that I am referring to in this thread. I couldn't remember the model number because of Brinks's wierd model numbers.

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Postby .45cal » 7 Jul 2008 21:48

I've got an assa twin I could take apart if anyone wants to see what is inside.
Insert meaningful quote here!
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Medeco m3

Postby slozinsky » 7 Jul 2008 22:31

The grooves for the side bar are on the other side of the pins, i should have left some facing the other way so they would be visible.

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Postby djslacker » 10 Jul 2008 16:57

Here are the pins for an American Lock Series 5530.

4 out of 5 serrated bottom pins and 4 serrated spool pins and 1 serrated pin on top. Nice lock.

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Re: Medeco m3

Postby spoolspanker » 3 Nov 2008 23:20

slozinsky wrote:The grooves for the side bar are on the other side of the pins, i should have left some facing the other way so they would be visible.

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wow. interesting
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Re: List of security pins in locks.

Postby MisterQ » 6 Nov 2008 15:55

A good link to get information about the pins for european locks is:

http://www.schlosswiki.unlockmaster.de/ ... er-Schloss

And here is the main site:

http://www.schlosswiki.unlockmaster.de/ ... er-Schloss

People from a german lockpicking board have started to catalog the properties about the internal lock parts. This is a open project and has started 2 years ago.
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Re: List of security pins in locks.

Postby awol70 » 21 Feb 2009 21:02

American 2000 series puck : 5 serrated regular drivers and one spoorated spool up top,
and 5 out of 6 serrated keypin counterparts.(BEFORE REFURBISH AND KEYING)
drivers and springs dirty web.jpg
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Re:

Postby awol70 » 21 Feb 2009 21:05

brucsds wrote:I never thought of that! do they apply any security features to the pin in pin system? i´ve never heard of a serrated, os spool pin in pin lock, but i wouldnt be surprised :p

yes, i own a few Mul-T-Locks, and i have serrated,regular and mushroom drivers, (shrooms in the interactive)
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Re: List of security pins in locks.

Postby FrenchKey » 24 Feb 2009 5:47

Here is a break-down of a JPM / Cisa anti-picks keyway cylinder.

6 pins, 2 dead pins on the left, 2 on the right.

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(I don't know your politic about posting pictures, shall we put a link or can we put them directly on the forum ? Let me know)

No security pins in mine, but you can almost put no picks in it :D
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Re:

Postby awol70 » 24 Mar 2009 23:09

Afisch wrote:Strange question, but is there really any reason other than price for not using a security pin? I spose im just wondering why every pin isnt a security pin.

a valid query.
if you placed,say 5 spools in a five-chamber lock,the lock would go directly into a false set.(and operate poorly with the key)
usually one regular pin is used to correct this.
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