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by taylorgdl » 30 Nov 2005 18:13
It's all about the tension . . .
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by ThE_MasteR » 30 Nov 2005 18:19
Flexible Bump Keys !! 
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by taylorgdl » 30 Nov 2005 18:22
It will be rubber pick guns next . . .

It's all about the tension . . .
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by grit1 » 30 Nov 2005 18:43
That is the strangest thing I've ever seen ... does the shrowd retract itself? Is it part of the locking mechanism or just protection for the key while in your pocket?
Nice find! ~Grit.
Got shear line?
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by taylorgdl » 30 Nov 2005 18:53
Yes, the "key" is protected inside the shroud, then placed against the lock, the black keyfob is then pushed towards the lock, and the flexible part of the key enters the keyway, through what looks like some form of cog mechanism. Looks like the keyway inside the lock could be "S" shaped, just to make things harder !
Wonder how they cut spare keys ?
You get two keys, and a blank with a code on it. The blank is cut to the same shape as the original keys, but is not flexible.
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by digital_blue » 30 Nov 2005 19:52
taylorgdl wrote:Wonder how they cut spare keys ?
You get two keys, and a blank with a code on it. The blank is cut to the same shape as the original keys, but is not flexible.
G.
I would tend to think that they use the solid blank to duplicate onto a "special" blank, perhaps even with a standard key cutter? These locks have been discussed here before. I'm sure you could dig up the thread, though i don't think there was really much more information than has been discussed here already.
I'm curious if it can be shimmed.
Cheers!
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by ndgreen » 30 Nov 2005 20:18
If (as everybody is probably thinking) they key is like that to enable the keyway to curve (or 'S' shape, whatever), wouldn't that only result in the beloved 'binding defect' being more pronounced?
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by devnill » 30 Nov 2005 20:33
thats a really cool key. I wonder if you could make keys for standard locks like that? it looks like it would fit alright after you managed to get it in the keyway.
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by Chrispy » 1 Dec 2005 5:46
Haven't we seen this already?
Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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by Auto45 » 1 Dec 2005 10:51
Looks like a 3 pin key cut, not sure if being fixable will stop from picking using standard picks. or making a standard straight copy of key. looks real cool I would have bought one.
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by Dent » 7 Dec 2005 4:43
Just a thought, but they could actually make a "U" shape keyway, such that the first and last pin line up side by side in the lock.
Then to pick you would have to have a very flexible pick as you would have to get to the back and then back to the front....
Anyway, as mentioned, it still seems as if a bump key is the answer for this as well.... whats the price on getting the key?(can you order blanks or must you buy the package, ect?)
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by taylorgdl » 25 Jan 2006 14:03
A quick update - the same ebay seller is now advertising "the Ultimate Dead Lock", using the same design as the padlock pictured above. Still not cheap though, and a bad advert.
Have not got 'round to having a go at the padlock, but will take it to Pinky and see what he thinks.
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by jordyh » 25 Jan 2006 14:06
I wonder if it will yield to shimming, and worse, can you use a regular broken key extractor to get the thing out if it breaks?
i'd laugh if the key breaks halfway, with such a mechanism, i'd stop laughing if it was my lock tho. 
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by Raccoon » 25 Jan 2006 17:46
Please link the eBay seller.
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by toomush2drink » 25 Jan 2006 17:56
Why dont you try making some rakes out of strips of mica, use the thick stuff and you may be able to rake it open. It may not have any anti pick pins as the keyway and key design seems to be its main protection.It may also be possible to make a comb out of mica too and foil impression it, but would take a lot of wiggling. 
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