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by ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 12:25
I got two of these today, and it seems it has a biaxial core just by looking at the pins, here take a look:

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by Jason13 » 23 Jun 2006 12:27
Ya a curve in the pin Biaxial Grr!
Have you tryed picking it yet? and hows it going?
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by ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 12:32
Jason13 wrote:Ya a curve in the pin Biaxial Grr!
Have you tryed picking it yet? and hows it going?
I think it has to do with the angles in the key. I tried picking it, but I do not know how to turn the pins, plus, if there's a sidebar, i'll need to practice. Have you already picked a biaxial ?
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by n2oah » 23 Jun 2006 12:34
ThE_MasteR wrote:Have you already picked a biaxial ?
Jason?  He's still working on holding the picks 
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by ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 12:38
n2oah wrote:ThE_MasteR wrote:Have you already picked a biaxial ?
Jason?  He's still working on holding the picks 
If he would of said yes, automatically he would of been a lier.
So what do you think n2oah about the lock, biaxial or not, sidebar or not ?
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by devildog » 23 Jun 2006 12:44
You are aware of the fact that Chubb and Medeco got some kind of deal going where Chubb uses Medeco cylinders (they're currently using the new M3) and gets to call them 'Chubb M3's' or some such thing, right?
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by n2oah » 23 Jun 2006 12:49
Yes, it's definetly a biaxial, although the Biaxial logo looks like it's flashed out. (look above the 51s)
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by ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 12:54
I can't really see any sidebar in there, but it's also the first time I am dealing with these locks so I don't know..
The pins are silver, compared to the plug that is brass. Here's another picture for you n2oah. BTW, what is the 32S and the 51S ? Model ?

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by What » 23 Jun 2006 13:00
hmm, that is interesting. a 32s cylinder with a 52s plug.
you wount be able to see the sidebar, i engages the pins from the side.
you may be able to see the groove cut into the pin though.
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by ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 13:01
What wrote:hmm, that is interesting. a 32s cylinder with a 52s plug.
you wount be able to see the sidebar, i engages the pins from the side.
you may be able to see the groove cut into the pin though.
Here you go, and yes, I only have two hands.

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by Octillion » 23 Jun 2006 14:11
That big groove in the pin shown above is for a sidebar. Also, you should be able to feel the sidebar popping in and out when turning the plug a bit past 0 degrees with the key. There is no biaxial logo however, so it may not be biaxial.
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by n2oah » 23 Jun 2006 14:18
Hmm, there is no biaxial logo. I thought the bottom of the "C" on Chubb was the biaxial logo.
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by UWSDWF » 23 Jun 2006 14:54
the 51s i have is biaxial yet again no biax logo. The groove in the pin indicates biaxial so i'd got with is biax
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by ThE_MasteR » 23 Jun 2006 15:08
Should I ask CHUBB or Medeco about this ? Maybe they'd know.
Octillion: I wouldn't be asking if it's a biax or not, if I had the key now would I ? 
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by zeke79 » 23 Jun 2006 15:33
Post a picture of the key, most specifically the tip. Both sides if possible. Post pictures of the key bow also.
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