Can't figure out how to open old padlock

[Sindbadd]

Hello

I still can't figure out how to open such type of padlock :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Civil-War-Old-Padlock-Jail-Railroad-Slave-Pirate_W0QQitemZ150008055985QQihZ005QQcategoryZ13961QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I read tutorial by capt.cunc (
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?p=75550#75550)
about lever locks and I still can't figure out what to do. I need to have two wires to open such padlock ? or do i need only one to push the levers and then my padlock will open ?
I am used to opening normal pin padlocks , where I use tension wrench and a pick and i am a little bit confused with these old type padlocks. Do i still need to apply some tension with second wire , or no tension is needed and the only thing i need to do is push the levers?

I would be grateful for any help
thanks and regards

[Phatphish]

I would say you would need two wires.
One to actuate the bolt thrower, and another to manipulate the levers.
The bolt throwing mechanism is likely furthest away from the face of the lock, with the levers stacked in front of it.

I may of course be totally wrong.

[MacGyver101]

I still can't figure out how to open such type of padlock ...

As with pin-tumbler padlocks, you still need two tools: one to provide tension, and another to manipulate the levers. I'm far from an expert on lever locks... I think, though, that you'll find this link offers some additional information:

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=7243

As a side-note, while the design is old, these locks are still in production. For example:

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=43645&cat=3,43631,43641&ap=1

[Krypos]

i cant find it right now, but there was a vidoe i saw today of a guy picking a more modern lever lock, it looked a bit different, but still a lever lock, try finding that video or ANY video for that matter and watch those. maybe that will give you a better idea of what to do.

[illusion]

I think it is a lever lock.

Read this: http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=10743

[parapilot]

Here's a video using the padlock pick. They are about £30 ($60) from online shops. You can just use wires though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=817jo3uRVIY&search=lock%20picking

[Krypos]

yup thats the one i was talking about.

[horsefeathers]

Re-read Phatphish's post - i think he has it spot on. Two wires needed, one inserted to back of lock and used to put pressure on the retractable bolt holding the shackle in, and the other wire to push each lever up to gate.

no pins in it

regards

wayne

[raimundo]

The photo of the lock in the first link, actually appears to be a modern copy of a type of lock that never really went away, there are modern manufacture versions of this type of lock still sold but the one in the picture looks like the kind of repro antique made in small shops in pakistan, whether for local use to secure things or for western antique markets, the tip off is the flap over the keyhole, the old ones either did not have this or would make it elaborate with a design either stamped or cast intothe piece, but the pakistani modern versions only show the marks of a rough grinding wheel, and the very simple shape as shown in the photo,
This means that that lock has very little security against picking, possibly only one lever, a heavy spring, and some warding, I wouldn't think it impossible if someone got one of these things and really looked it over it could be susceptable to shimming, rapping, (banging it on the shackle or other places to move the locking dog) an easy bicycle spoke pick, stuff like that.