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Dual Key Lever Lock

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Dual Key Lever Lock

Postby Schuyler » 15 Nov 2006 22:54

OK

This one isn't a fake ;)

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Two key slots, and a bolt that won't retract until both keys have been turned. Far slot first, near slot second.

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The keys (UH OH! Does anyone notice a problem, yet? The keys are the same. :()

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Key goes in...like so!

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Some shots of the lever packs 6 levers per pack.

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Key in position.

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Another shot of the same.

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SO!

The key has turned and the bitting as pushed the levers into position. If you re-reference the keys, you will see a big tooth that goes to the very bottom of the key, that's actually pulling the metal base inward, carrying the stumps between the gates.

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Close up!

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With the first stump thrown, the second key is now free to turn, and the second metal base is free to move back.

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Close up!

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um...another picture of it! :D (I hope all these pictures aren't killing anyone's connection...)

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So, seeing as how I didn't have the proper second key, I removed a bunch of the levers to make my life a bit easier and pulled the second stump into place. This, in effect, threw the bolt. Voila!

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A better view of the insides and a row of the levers. The bits you see between the levers (you can tell the levers by the long pieces of metal they use for springs) are spacers. Maybe they have an additional purpose I'm not immediately realizing, but I think that's all they do. I guess they help keep the stumps lined up too...

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EVERYTHING! :D

hehe, well, hope you've enjoyed this journey through my little lock. I've been filing the levers to fit my key, so when I get that project finished I'll show you the whole shebang fit together properly.
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Lips

Postby greyman » 17 Nov 2006 16:29

I like it. It's a Lips safe deposit lock but I don't know what model. Originally from around 1920 or so. Pity to file the levers but I guess it's hard to get keys for these days.
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Postby mh » 17 Nov 2006 17:14

Interesting setup - one of the keys is checked on both sides, while the other is not. Which one would be the bank's key and which one the renter's key? The renter's key checked on both sides to allow for more variations?
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Re: Lips

Postby Schuyler » 17 Nov 2006 17:57

greyman wrote:I like it. It's a Lips safe deposit lock but I don't know what model. Originally from around 1920 or so. Pity to file the levers but I guess it's hard to get keys for these days.


The price was right, bought it at the Dutch Open fairly cheap. Nice to have it identified. Had I known it was that old! Well...I don't know. I probably would have at least given the old college try for getting a key. I'm half filed already, so I'll finish the job. :)
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Postby n2oah » 17 Nov 2006 18:43

mh wrote:Interesting setup - one of the keys is checked on both sides, while the other is not. Which one would be the bank's key and which one the renter's key? The renter's key checked on both sides to allow for more variations?


Yes, the key with less levers is definetly the guard's key.
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