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by **retiltxet** » 1 Feb 2004 3:15

Hi, I have a best core, How can i decode the control pins, without spending 100+ bux on a gizmo that i will only use once, and is it possible to get the master combinate from the pins?

Thanks

by **marso** » 1 Feb 2004 3:17

We have recently discussed this. Basically we came to the conclusion it is a bad idea to play with control pins etc.. What exactly are you asking and please give an example.

by **retiltxet** » 1 Feb 2004 3:37

I have a core out of the rim ... I want to produce a control key, I would like to know how to decode the pins.

I would also like to know how to if at all possible decode a master key.

by **marso** » 1 Feb 2004 3:55

Why do you want to know how to make a control key?

Do a search for SFIC and you will seek the answers you are looking for.

Master key questions. There are number of text out there that covers this topic.

by **retiltxet** » 1 Feb 2004 4:37

I am not some malicous guy, the reason is i purchased about 50 padlocks off of ebay, all same control key, and i had to drill one open

Other postings dont help. Need to know how to measure.

by **marso** » 1 Feb 2004 5:00

I am sorry mate because I can not help you. I would approach it by trying to impression. When you first post to a forum, I would suggest a welcome and a few other things before you ask something like how to make a control key. If you read the other posts we are not very forthcomming with such information.

by **retiltxet** » 1 Feb 2004 5:17

Well gee, im sorry for asking for such sensitive information, if i wanted to get a control key, i would just take it to a locksmith, who would do it for 30 bucks, i just wanted to increase my knowledge and maybe save some money, i didnt know that locksmiths were so proprietary and hated for other people to learn something once in a while, i think that i and everyone else for that matter should not be criticized for trying to learn something!

{edited by Varjeal: please avoid the use of inappropriate language. Also review the welcome message available in every forum for a list of rules.}

by **marso** » 1 Feb 2004 5:38

I should rephrase. I am sorry because I do not know the answer. Hence I can not help you. If you read the oh so many posts and the great FAQ on impressioning you may want to try that. But if you have read the previous posts on best sfic and impressioning it is a pot luck process. Basically you are talking about a) a senstive topic b) a topic that is not easy.

Many regards,
marso

by **Chucklz** » 1 Feb 2004 11:13

Go here http://professional.schlage.com/product ... -C75SF.PDF

Read about how to pin up a SFIC. Grab the one you drilled (you drilled the control lug out, not through the pins riight???) And whatever change keys you have.

Be aware, you will need a micrometer or vernier calipers, key blanks, a suitable file, and patience.

You may also be able to use this http://www.lockcodes.com/pin/ to help you.

by **retiltxet** » 1 Feb 2004 12:15

Thanks for every ones help , including marso, i have discovered alas, I need a phd to do this, so i will just take it to the locksmith :roll:

by **CitySpider** » 1 Feb 2004 23:36

retiltxet wrote:i didnt know that locksmiths were so proprietary and hated for other people to learn something once in a while, i think that i and everyone else for that matter should not be criticized for trying to learn something!

We're not locksmiths. And it sounds to me like your only viable solutions here are shell out the money for the tools, or pay someone who shelled out the money for the tools. So good call on going to a locksmith.

by **salzi684** » 2 Feb 2004 2:11

There is a way to do it but you need a set of calipers and your control key will only work if all of the locks are keyed exactly alike. Post if you are interested.

by **Varjeal** » 2 Feb 2004 11:36

Pinning and/or decoding ANY IC lock is not easy. It requires several things including:

1. A good chart showing pin lengths and conversions.
2. Micrometer (digital is best) or vernier calipers.
3. A pin tray and tweezers. (tray to keep all the pins in correct formation VERY important.)
4. Keyblanks.

You don't need a PhD (otherwise I'd be Dr. Varjeal) but it's not an easy process. (And yes, I am a locksmith)

by **yoyoceramic** » 7 Jun 2004 21:28

Hi. I am a locksmith and recently we had a guy drop off an ic core and asked for the assembly it was in to be tightened. Well, the only way it looks like we can do this is to decode the control key.

Now, I have successfully picked the control line using my IC core tension wrench I bought from peterson manufacturing. Should I just go ahead and carefully remove the pin stacks from the i core? I dont know what my next steps would be. I do have all the tools necessary for the job so if someone who is knowledgeable in this area reads this, please respond.

Thanks

by **CaptHook** » 8 Jun 2004 0:56

recently we had a guy drop off an ic core and asked for the assembly it was in to be tightened.

Im not sure I follow you on this, is the plug sloppy in the core? Or is the core sloppy in the cylinder or knob it goes to?
As long as its not able to be pulled out of the knob or cylinder, its fine, you may be able to talk him into replacing the lockset if it would make him feel better.
If the plug is sloppy in the core, recombinate a new core. Punch the stacks 1 at a time carefully keeping everything in the same order it comes out. Using new pins, key the core with the same pin combination.
Ask customer to bring control key and change/master keys to make sure its right before it leaves the shop.
Chuck

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