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by cmant1 » 24 Jan 2007 17:53
I have some Kwikset new door locks and dead bolts with no keys,
The door locks same numbers and dead bolts have the same numbers on the boxes.
How would I go about getting keys for these.
Sure would be easy if I had one key. These appear to be keyed alike.
I had bought these at a yard sale.
I surely would rather be fixing a computer breathing new life into it with Linux!
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Cliff
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by Anero » 24 Jan 2007 18:09
take the locks to a locksmith, they will have to be re-keyed or a new key made.
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by JackNco » 24 Jan 2007 18:10
what he said
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by SmokieD » 24 Jan 2007 18:14
Yeah, i doubt you know much about repinning locks so your only bet is to take it to a locksmith or have a locksmith come to you.
Actually if you have a kwiset you should go out to your local Home depot or lowes to get some schlage locks because they are much better than kwisets. And getting a couple schlages isnt gonna cost you much more than 35-60, and the average locksmith charges 35 per visit and probably extra for repinning. At least where i come from.
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by JackNco » 24 Jan 2007 18:16
take it to them and u shoudl get a key cut cheaper
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by SmokieD » 24 Jan 2007 18:41
True, but in the future when you have the spare change you should think about replacing them with schlages, or medeco, etc. Kwiksets are a joke. Even the Ultra Max Kwiksets are easy to pick and thats the Kwikset company version of a high security lock.
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by KBsecurities » 25 Jan 2007 0:01
Even some schlages are easy to pick. If you really want some security you should really go with a Medeco but they can be kind of pricey.
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by cmant1 » 26 Jan 2007 6:46
If I don't have the original key. Is it possible repin them without the original key?
I was looking at getting a kit but it said I had to have the original key.
Thanks for the comments

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by Anero » 26 Jan 2007 12:36
if you can pick it of course you can.
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by UWSDWF » 26 Jan 2007 12:37
cmant1 wrote:If I don't have the original key. Is it possible repin them without the original key? I was looking at getting a kit but it said I had to have the original key. Thanks for the comments 
you might not be able to but a locksmith definitly can
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by keysman » 26 Jan 2007 16:02
>>If I don't have the original key. Is it possible repin them without the original key?
I was looking at getting a kit but it said I had to have the original key.<<<
You will need to get the locks open by the correct key , or picking before repining the lock.
You may also be able to disassemble the lock to the “ open positionâ€.
Some “box†hardware stores ( lowes, home depot, ect) sell a rekey kit with enough pins for 4 or 5 locks + keys , a follower, removal tool ( Kwickset) and directions to rekey for around $10.00
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by SmokieD » 27 Jan 2007 22:21
KBsecurities wrote:Even some schlages are easy to pick.
I dont know what schlages youve picked, but Kwiksets dont compare. Schlages have a narrow keyway which makes getting a hook in there difficult, strong springs, and the driver pins are more pointed which makes it harder to push up correctly
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by Gordon Airporte » 27 Jan 2007 23:32
cmant1 wrote:If I don't have the original key. Is it possible repin them without the original key? I was looking at getting a kit but it said I had to have the original key. Thanks for the comments 
The code or biting of the key is determined by the lengths of the keypins in each stack. If the locks aren't keyed alike then chances are you won't be able to fix them yourself. Both sets of pins would have to have exactly the same lengths, but in different orders - so you would just shuffle the pins in one lock around to match the other.
Otherwise you'll need a pinning kit and you'll need to know how to shim the locks open, if you can't pick them.
I suppose you could shim them open just to look and see if they're keyed alike, and you could determine the code by measuring the pins - but I don't think that would help much, you'd still be visiting a locksmith to get the key made in which case he might as well do the whole thing for you.
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by HeadHunterCEO » 28 Jan 2007 12:47
woder if you could send them an email with those key codes on the boxes.
ask them for the biting
worth a try
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by grim » 3 Feb 2007 22:58
cmant1 wrote:If I don't have the original key. Is it possible repin them without the original key? I was looking at getting a kit but it said I had to have the original key. Thanks for the comments 
i have people bring me locks like this all the time. just for an idea of prices, here's what we charge:
make key: US$15.00
simple rekey: US$9.00
mastered rekey: US$10.50
prices and participation may vary.
it's not that hard to either make a key for an existing lock or to rekey a lock (so that it works with a new key). your local lockie should be able to help you out.
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