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by dougfarre » 25 Dec 2007 16:22
So about three years ago I installed new locks for my parents in their new home to replace the locks that were installed by the homebuilders. I chose Schlage because I believe their locks last a very long time, and my parents have no need for high security locks. I installed deadbolts on the front and back door with a thumb turn. In addition, on the back door I also installed a key in knob handle with a keyway faceing the outside of the door and the little thumbturn facing the inside of the door (duh).
Now when you lock the nob from the inside, the nob will still turn on the inside, but it wont turn on the outside.
So every once in a while the knob will be locked and someone will open the door from the inside to go outside and close the door behind them. And then be locked-out, because they didn't realize that the knob was actually locked.
There must be a way to disable this.. Schlage has been tricking my family for 3 years now.
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by Trip Doctor » 25 Dec 2007 16:29
dougfarre wrote: Schlage has been tricking my family for 3 years now.
Lol 
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by LockNewbie21 » 26 Dec 2007 5:41
Friggen A! my family does that all the time.. I had to pick my way back in a bunch of times as well.
They are a piece of work I will say that
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by Timtam » 26 Dec 2007 6:07
dougfarre wrote:So about three years ago I installed new locks for my parents in their new home to replace the locks that were installed by the homebuilders. I chose Schlage because I believe their locks last a very long time, and my parents have no need for high security locks. I installed deadbolts on the front and back door with a thumb turn. In addition, on the back door I also installed a key in knob handle with a keyway faceing the outside of the door and the little thumbturn facing the inside of the door (duh).
Now when you lock the nob from the inside, the nob will still turn on the inside, but it wont turn on the outside.
So every once in a while the knob will be locked and someone will open the door from the inside to go outside and close the door behind them. And then be locked-out, because they didn't realize that the knob was actually locked.
There must be a way to disable this.. Schlage has been tricking my family for 3 years now.
So you're saying that when you press the knob in on the inside, and turn it from the inside, the knob doesn't pop out again, thus keeping it locked? Maybe there's a problem in the mechanism or something?
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by maintenanceguy » 26 Dec 2007 7:51
There are probably a dozen different lock "functions" recognized by ANSI (american national standards institute) and given ANSI numbers.
sounds like you have what is called a storeroom function or office entrance function. Some manufacturer's just call it an entrance function, although an ANSI entrance function has a rigid knob on the inside when it's locked so you can't do this.
I've never seen a lockset that let you change the type of lock function and I've worked on lots of Schlage locksets.
I'm afraid the only solution is to buy another lockset.
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by dougfarre » 26 Dec 2007 14:18
Timtam wrote: So you're saying that when you press the knob in on the inside, and turn it from the inside, the knob doesn't pop out again, thus keeping it locked? Maybe there's a problem in the mechanism or something?
Its not a pushbutton, its thumb-turn.
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by delocking » 26 Dec 2007 14:37
On the brighter side ... at least their home is secure 
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by Eyes_Only » 26 Dec 2007 15:21
Yeah but it just isnt the same if you're admiring your secure home from outside rather than from the inside.
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by freakparade3 » 26 Dec 2007 17:42
It's the perfect oportunity to teach your parents to pick locks. Bring the family closer together.
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by Eyes_Only » 26 Dec 2007 20:55
Wouldn't that be weird? You start a post about something on this site and then your mom replies to it. Or your parents ask you to let them have a peek into the advanced forum and you tell them "No" with a evil grin on your face. 
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by poor paperclip picker » 27 Dec 2007 3:08
I have a schlage door knob, that I have that i use to practice picking on, it too is a KIK (Key In Knob). It looks like a thumb turn to lock it but it is a push button, but if you turn it and add a slight pressure, it will stay in the lock position. (I believe this is called a Turn-Button) I don't know if this is what you are talking about. But that is how my schlage works.
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