tubular lock problems

[spocompton81]

Hey this is my first post. I lurked as a guest for awhile. I'm still pretty new to picking. I'm working on a tubular lock with my southord 7 pin pick and can't seem to get it. I've noticed on the pick that between the first and second needles it is getting worn out. looking down into the lock there is definitely something there between the first and second pins. I've searched the forum and can't find any info. I think the lock might be a greenwald but I'm not sure. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[maxxed]

If there is a steel fixed pin there then you have a lock with additional security. I requires a cut on the key to clear the pin and the cut needs to be present on the pick as well.
I left my HPC tubular lock pick alone and made one following Raimundo's guide for making a tubular pick and the cut the slot into that pick

[Abus]

Do you know the brand of the tubular cylinder in question? Some are more likely to have a fixed pin than others. Also, it is possible that it isn't a fixed pin, but either a chunk of debris, or, espicially if the lock has been in outdoor service, it has a stuck pin. I like to probe each pin to make sure that they move with a paper clip or similar if I think something is odd about a particularly tubular lock.

[maxxed]

The locks that I have with fixed pins are chicago, the fixed pin is a solid unmoveable pin that is located between 2 of the regular cuts. This is designed to stop a regular key from fully seating into the lock.

[lokpikr999]

I believe it's called a dead pin

[maxxed]

I have usually found these locks on the service boxes on coin operated landry machines