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A new and unique combination padlock from Master Lock

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A new and unique combination padlock from Master Lock

Postby mh » 29 Mar 2008 17:17

This new lock with a unique user interface that takes a combination of any(!) length is not yet on the market,

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but you can already learn all about it:
http://www.toool.nl/axis-masterlock.pdf


:D Now this is my claim to 1 week of fame: it's on blackbag :D
http://www.toool.nl/blackbag/?p=183

(And also in the next NDE magazine, of course, together with lots of great stuff, don't miss that!)

Cheers,
mh
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Postby hydruh » 29 Mar 2008 18:57

Wow, Michael. That article is something special - fantastic analysis!

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Postby Eyes_Only » 29 Mar 2008 20:14

This is trippy. :shock:
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Postby bumber » 29 Mar 2008 22:02

All I wanna know is how do you get free stuff from Masterlock? :lol:

Thats one of the coolest things Ive seen in a long time...when we will be able to get our hands on these guys? And what will be an estimated price?

Thanks for the info too *insert clapping smiley* :D
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Postby n2oah » 30 Mar 2008 0:14

bumber wrote:Thats one of the coolest things Ive seen in a long time...when we will be able to get our hands on these guys?


Probably around 2012.
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Postby bumber » 30 Mar 2008 0:47

n2oah wrote:
bumber wrote:Thats one of the coolest things Ive seen in a long time...when we will be able to get our hands on these guys?


Probably around 2012.


*rocking chair sound* ....and I wait :lol:
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Postby mh » 30 Mar 2008 1:21

Probably last quarter 2008, at least in Europe.

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Postby Squelchtone » 30 Mar 2008 1:34

mh,

Great article! I like the diagrams and drawings. I've been working on my US military padlock article since early December, and its still not done. I think you've just motivated me to return to it.

nice work,

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Postby MacGyver101 » 30 Mar 2008 12:14

Thanks for taking the time to put that together: that's a great article! After a bit of poking around, I managed to find the original patent, which offers some additional views of the mechanics:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6718803
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Postby mh » 30 Mar 2008 12:20

MacGyver101 wrote:Thanks for taking the time to put that together: that's a great article! After a bit of poking around, I managed to find the original patent, which offers some additional views of the mechanics:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6718803


Wow, great, thanks! I wrote the article during a vacation without internet access, but even afterwards, I didn't find the patent - what were the search criteria you used?

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Postby mh » 30 Mar 2008 12:36

http://www.knollan.com/ gives more info on the benefits of this locking mechanism...
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Postby MacGyver101 » 30 Mar 2008 12:55

mh wrote:. . . I didn't find the patent - what were the search criteria you used?


I wasn't having much luck finding the lock mechanism either. Fortunately, Master Lock files bushels of design patents for the look of their locks; I started searching the design patents instead, and found the Master Lock lock housing... which references the patent number for the actual lock. :)
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Postby MacGyver101 » 30 Mar 2008 12:59

Sorry: I should have included the link... this is the Design Patent, assigned to Master Lock, for the lock body:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPATD557107
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Postby Afisch » 30 Mar 2008 13:08

Brilliant article. I think I'll be trying to get one of these when they hit the market.
Have you put any time into the last manipulation method mentioned?
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Postby byers2142 » 30 Mar 2008 13:42

Excellent article, Michael!

When I was reading the Manipulation techniques portion, it seemed to me that if two disks were turned to the correct gate position, pulling on the shackle would cause the knob to not move all of the way in any direction, since it's impossible to not affect both disks with any given move. Am I right in that thinking, or did my mind offer up another blazing error? If I'm right, that would make determining the combination even harder using the last method, and darn near impossible for some gate settings. Combined with its shim resistance, and this sounds like a great quality padlock.

In any event, I can't believe I have to wait so long to get my hands on one of these... :(
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