New picker and lock trouble

[Augustud]

Hi all,

First off I'm new to the hobby but have been reading the forums a bit and just wanted to say hi.

Secondly, not having had the chance to go and buy a practice lock I rumaged round the house and found a spare padlock to try on. Been doing it for a day or so now and can't seem to crack it. Its probably way above my level but was wondering if any one knows anything about it or can offer any advice , e.g. how many pins, etc. I seem to be able to get 3 or 4 of the pins up but then hit a dead end. Any way thanks in advance:





PS not sure if this thread is in the right place, if not I apolagise

[RangerF150]

Well if it's any comfort, i've been picking for quite a while, I have one of those locks, and I can't open it
My one is loaded with security pins, and has a nasty biting , it's also got a tiny keyway, all adds up to nasty lock to open.

Get some other locks, not Yale, but Master or some other make that is cheap, but even a cheap lock can be hard to open, so get as many as you can, you will eventually get one that you will open quite easily, that will get you on the ladder

[datagram]

Don't worry about not getting it, that is a decent challenge for someone just starting out. I'd recommend you get a Kwikset deadbolt to start out with. You can easily disassemble it and start with 1 or 2 pins then work your way up. As said, Master are also good confidence locks early on, but will quickly become too easy.

dg

[Augustud]

Went to Focus and brought me an own brand generic 4 pin pad lock. Cracked it in under 2 min. Needed a new challenge so went hunting round the house again and found some suit case locks. They took a little while longer (mainly because my home made tension wrench was too big so had to fashion another out of a hair clip), brought cracked them pretty quick as well. Sooo I need to go buy another padlock, what do you recomened, moving up to a 5/6 pin one with no other complications? Or I might get a dead bolt one like you recomened but I don't think my tools are quite good enough, (paper clips and hair clips atm)

However, I still cant crack the one above. Can anyone find it on the net or have a brack down of it? Still don't really know what i'm dealing with, has it got security pins? or should I just give up on it?

Thanks so much

[straightpick]

No security pins in that padlock. Probably 4 pins, would be surprised if it were 5 pins, due to it's size. Yale locks have paracentric keyways which make them hard to pick. You need small picks and wrenches to be able to manipulate the pins due to the keyway shape.

[MacGnG1]

get some good tools. but yes a dead bolt is a great start get a double dead bolt ( for a few bucks more you get 2 locks )

HAVE FUN

[RangerF150]

No security pins in that padlock.

I beg to differ, but there is security pins in that lock, quite a few.

[straightpick]

Gee, guess my Yale pinning kit must be defective - no security pins in it.

[RangerF150]

Gee, guess my Yale pinning kit must be defective - no security pins in it.

Dunno! You tell me, my Yale lock does have em, it's the same as above, outside of that I can't say.
Are security pins normally included in a pinning kit?

[straightpick]

Security pins are included in the kit for the Yale Keymark cylinders, but that is a high security cylinder. I noticed that you are in Ireland. Yale makes a lot of keyways for overseas that are not avalilable here. Maybe it's a regional thing.