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cutaway locks

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cutaway locks

Postby samfishers » 29 Sep 2008 19:52

there is no cutaway official threads, but we have so many talented people who did some.. here is mine. I hope yours follow

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_1533.jpg
it is a schlage 5 pin, the reason why is 3-4 pins missing, it's because it was my first try on the mill..
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Postby op-sec » 29 Sep 2008 20:16

Nice job. I'm thinking about making one up so I can demonstrate what is happening to people. I wanted one when I first started picking but, I'm glad now that I learned "blind"... It makes me pay much more attention to my sense of touch.
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Postby Dak » 29 Sep 2008 21:18

To be honest I dont see the purpose of a cutaway. "practice what you play" comes to mind. Why use a lock that you can see the pins because whenever you actually need to pick a lock you cant?
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Postby shatter » 29 Sep 2008 21:36

Dak wrote:To be honest I dont see the purpose of a cutaway. "practice what you play" comes to mind. Why use a lock that you can see the pins because whenever you actually need to pick a lock you cant?


They are a really handy tool when it's time to explain to someone how locks work. Also, making a cutaway could be a fun project for some. Other than that, I'm with you.
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Postby Dak » 29 Sep 2008 21:43

shatter wrote:They are a really handy tool when it's time to explain to someone how locks work.



Hadn't thought of that, but I suppose with all the resources (seminars, videos, books) available today that they wouldnt be necassary. I remember learning how pin tumblers work by looking through an illustrated encyclopedia a whiles back.
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Postby mh » 29 Sep 2008 23:23

Try to imagine how an EVVA MCS works, and then imagine you had a cutaway... Sometimes it's not about the picking :)

Also, there are some more photos in this sticky:
viewtopic.php?t=13478

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Postby Squelchtone » 29 Sep 2008 23:35

mh wrote:Try to imagine how an EVVA MCS works, and then imagine you had a cutaway... Sometimes it's not about the picking :)


Very well said mh. Sometimes its nice to look at a cutaway to admire the mechanical design of the lock or in order to understand the lock's multiple locking points clearly.

A 5 pin Schlage or Kwikset tumbler lock cutaway is always a cool item, but certainly not necessary to understand how such a lock works, but when you start dealing with sidebars, trap pins, sliders, ball bearings, countermilling, magnets, balanced pin stacks, and false gates, it's really nice to see a real life lock, instead of a grainy artists representation on the lock companies website or PDF sales literature.

btw... I got to see eric343's EVVA MCS cutaway at the TOOOL Boston meeting yesterday, its pretty cool to see the magnetic discs spinning around while you insert or withdraw the key.

For those interested, I just linked a good cutaway site in another thread (seems to be the hot topic here tonight), here's the link: http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=41750

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Postby keysman » 30 Sep 2008 6:52

some really interesting cutaways here:
http://www.1st-net-lock-museum.com/ca1.htm
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