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by Bronco » 4 Jan 2009 17:13
Hey there people,
I found this lock at my job nobody can find the key so they just gave it to me...
I tryed to pick it for a while now and i thought about searching abit for that lock... Nothing much on lockpicking101, no diagram on google. Not alot of info on youtube also. Well, I was hoping to find someone that can help.
So its a ABUS N 55/60 brass
Another aspect of it is that i found some spots on the side of the padlocks, maybe markings for the pins or somethings
it looks like this:
Top (inscription side)
Keyhole ------------------------- Side o o o o o o O Shackle Side ------------------------- Bottom
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by Bronco » 4 Jan 2009 17:16
Sorry for my diagram it went wrong and i cant edit but its like spots on the side of the padlock
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by cppdungeon » 4 Jan 2009 17:52
http://tinyurl.com/9u38zcDont take the link wrong, i just think its cool and i thought i would share. The second link when i google it gave me some useful info. its a brass 5-pin tumbler lock, probably does not have security pins or you would have noticed by now. It is what i would consider a "nice" lock made by a reputable company, so i would not be surprised if it was a low-tolerance, hard to pick lock lock. What are you using to pick it? What kind of locks can you normally pick? welcome to lp101 --Cpp
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by Bronco » 4 Jan 2009 18:30
Hello and thanks to answer so quickly
I can open all those easy desk locks, master no 3-5,cheap pad locks all in less then a minute.
Deadbolts lik kwiset arent a problem either
I highly prefer the short hook, but ive tryed them all, rake, half diamond, short hook, that chainsaw pick that comes in the kit mpxs-08(btw i have no idea in which occasion would you use that chainsaw like pick)
Another thing i forgot to mention is that usually when you spp. If you release tension you can hear which pin you had pass over the shear line because they would fall back into place. I thing once or twice Ive heard a pin fall back down. Its also a bit old with some old black grease inside.Different tension nothing does it for now but thanks again for the help
Bronco
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by cppdungeon » 5 Jan 2009 2:04
Hmm. If its old and grimy, hit it with some oil or cleaner. That should help free up the pins and help get some responsiveness from the lock.
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by raimundo » 5 Jan 2009 11:09
the spots on the side edge of the padlock are press fitted caps of brass that have a different alloy than the brass lock body they are pressed into. the little ones in a row, tell you how many pin chambers are in the lock, the big one is the hole that the locking dogs are inserted through. These are brushed,filed so that the tool marks hide the hole caps for a while. in some locks where the alloy is the same or where oxidation covers the difference, you can find such holes by lightly tapping on the edge, with the round face of a large spoon, when you hit a cover it drives it in slightly deeper and you can see little lines indicating the hole.
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by Bronco » 5 Jan 2009 14:04
Well thanks alot for that answer, so is there a possibility of six pins if my padlock has six spots or is there simply an extra chamber with no pins insert.
Its told to have 5 pins and no security if you read any info on this lock, can it be non standard pinnning... 55/60 model subdivision of some kind anyhow thanks alot.
Ill try to find some nice lube to help this old lock.
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by Jaakko » 5 Jan 2009 15:17
Usually the last chamber has a long pin that keeps the plug in place in the body.
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by Bronco » 7 Jan 2009 21:14
I now have an extra problem, I am quite sure that there is a security pin inside every time i get a particular pin set, the cylinders blocks after moving a bit.. I guess its the false set everyone one is talking about now i hope there is not more then one security pin and that i will be able to handle it.
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by mongo » 11 Jan 2009 19:27
cppdungeon wrote:http://tinyurl.com/9u38zc
Dont take the link wrong, i just think its cool and i thought i would share.
The second link when i google it gave me some useful info. its a brass 5-pin tumbler lock, probably does not have security pins or you would have noticed by now. It is what i would consider a "nice" lock made by a reputable company, so i would not be surprised if it was a low-tolerance, hard to pick lock lock. What are you using to pick it? What kind of locks can you normally pick?
welcome to lp101
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I laughed I thought I would cry, cpp that is too funny. that link should is cool
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