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by FrenchKey » 24 Feb 2009 16:29
You are very lucky to have such a friend ! Great cutaways, let us see the next 
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by SnowyBoy » 24 Feb 2009 19:05
I'll post some more when they are done tomorrow  I might even brave taking the ASSA twin down and cut that away too!
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by 5thcorps » 24 Feb 2009 19:39
what machine does he have?
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by SnowyBoy » 24 Feb 2009 19:51
5thcorps wrote:what machine does he have?
Don't know the name... its huge and old, yet so delicate with the locks.
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by SnowyBoy » 24 Feb 2009 19:53
Oh sorry, you meant what machine.... not the name lol
Yeah basically it's a verticle milling machine.
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by awol70 » 24 Feb 2009 20:58
WOW really well done....must be nice to have access to a machine shop....(30.00 min fee @ my local one...)
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by Varminter » 25 Feb 2009 6:14
Oh, nice work! I want to do that to my Abus 65/50 but I'm not exactly sure how to do it, I read Snowyboy's guide on how to dismantle a padlock and Jebus's on how to disassemble a padlock. The thing is that my Abus only got three pin caps, here I'll show you  Does that matter for cutting it or have I misunderstood something?
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by Varminter » 25 Feb 2009 6:17
Ah, didn't notice that I were "talking" to you Snowyboy when I refereed to your guide...
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by SnowyBoy » 25 Feb 2009 9:52
Varminter wrote:Ah, didn't notice that I were "talking" to you Snowyboy when I refereed to your guide...
Looking at your photo you have more than 3! Between the two you have sunk on the right there is one more hiding there... and i can also see the faint outline of another one on the far right. Try again, this time put the lock on a hard surface and get a peice of rod or a small metal screwdriver and place it dead centre between the two caps you have already sunk.... they will appear I can assure you.
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by SnowyBoy » 25 Feb 2009 9:56
I will have a part 2 for you this evening if you are interested in removing the shackle also 
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by Varminter » 25 Feb 2009 11:04
 Yes I can see that on that picture now yes, I tried your method but I failed... After drilling the small pilot hole I screwed in the screw and it somehow broke... Don't ask me how, was almost no pressure added or anything like it. Then I had to drill out the screw to try again, guess what! The drill broke inside the pilot hole and I had to drill that up as well... That's not all, the retainer bar bent inside the lock and jammed it completely ( I cut open the lock to figure out what happen, I also found out that all the pins were safety-pins! Four Spools and one serrated.) Btw: Can't wait to see your cutaways!
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by SnowyBoy » 25 Feb 2009 13:30
Varminter wrote::oops: Yes I can see that on that picture now yes, I tried your method but I failed... After drilling the small pilot hole I screwed in the screw and it somehow broke... Don't ask me how, was almost no pressure added or anything like it. Then I had to drill out the screw to try again, guess what! The drill broke inside the pilot hole and I had to drill that up as well... That's not all, the retainer bar bent inside the lock and jammed it completely ( I cut open the lock to figure out what happen, I also found out that all the pins were safety-pins! Four Spools and one serrated.)
Btw: Can't wait to see your cutaways!
That's harsh to hear you failed  You have to use a screw with a course thread to bite into the brass retainer.... and when you lift it, it has to be dead straight. I took a padlock apart today in the fastest time for me.... 7 minutes, complete with the shackle. I really went mad with the machine today! I managed to get done in 2 hours a test cut on my test abloy body for the ball bearing window, then I carried out the same cut on the duplicate, then I went ahead and cut the basket, then I done a bit on the EVVA cylinder and body, but failed a cut on the cylinder so the lock is only 1 sided which isn't a bad thing since you will be able to see the fingers on the opposite side (will be great to get a feel for and see for picking it), I also machined that pad i took apart in 7 mins. All i have to do now is tidy the burrs with a scalpel and polish them to a high shine  Here is the EVVA http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3728/idle.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8936/keyin.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6168/quarterturn.jpghttp://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3582/passivebar2.jpghttp://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3775/passivebar.jpghttp://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6928/sidebarq.jpg
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by Varminter » 25 Feb 2009 14:00
SnowyBoy wrote:That's harsh to hear you failed  You have to use a screw with a course thread to bite into the brass retainer.... and when you lift it, it has to be dead straight
I did but I think the screw was damaged, what diameter is the pilot hole you drill? Nice cutting by the way.
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by SnowyBoy » 25 Feb 2009 14:08
Varminter wrote:SnowyBoy wrote:That's harsh to hear you failed  You have to use a screw with a course thread to bite into the brass retainer.... and when you lift it, it has to be dead straight
I did but I think the screw was damaged, what diameter is the pilot hole you drill? Nice cutting by the way.
I just picked up a drill bit that looked smaller than the rod. Thanks for the comments about the locks  It's amazing what you can do with the right tools. Speaking of which, here's the Abloy 330 Profile just rebuilt http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3551/cimg5658.jpg
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