picking to the control line to remove a BEST core...

[Artkrp]

Long time no write everyone. so I was wondering if anyone had any tips seeing as how this subject has been giving me some difficulty.

I have 2 best cores that I need to pick to the control sheer. I have no problem picking best cores but picking them to the control line is spotty at best....err...no pun intended anyone with good tips to help me out?

thanks

[lunchb0x]

I haven't done it before but from what I have seen is that there is a tension wrench that you can get that puts tension on the control sleeve, the wrench has little teeth on the bottom of it to reach the control sleeve, i will see if I can find it.

[freakparade3]

I should of looked harder before posting, have a look here it might help you out.

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/

[Artkrp]

hey thanks man, that helps quite a bit!....maybe I should have looked a little harder before posting...<shrug>.. Now to go make one!

(runs gleefully down to garage)

[lock2006]

Here more info about picking bestlock
to the control line and the tool you can use hope this helps.
http://peterson-international.com/i_core.html

[maintenanceguy]

The tension wrenches with the tabs only work with the older SFIC cores with holes in the bottom of the control sleeve. I don't think any of the cores that have been made in a long time have these anymore.

Two things that work:

1) If you can get your tension wrench to sort of wedge in right where the control sleeve touches the plug, right in that corner, you can sort of put the tension on the control sleeve instead of the plug. It's not an exact science but I've had pretty good luck doing this.

2) Use a tiny drop of two part, fast setting epoxy to glue your tension wrench to the bottom of the keyway so it's stuck to the control sleeve. If you use a tiny drop, it will snap out easily once the lock is picked and you can easily pick any residue from inside the keyway in a few seconds. No damage to the lock and you are able to turn only the control sleeve. I first tried this a year or so again and it's worked for me every time. It takes about 10 minutes for a 5 minute epoxy to really set up hard enough so I'll wedge something in the keyway while it sets up. Simple and it works.

I posted this several months ago with color pictures and more details but it was moved to the secret squirrel section so even I couldn't see the reply's to my own post. I'll try again and hope it stays here this time. It seems that there's been a shift in thought here and that locksport's philosophy of open information might now prevail over the desire to keep some things secret to maintain a hobby class system .

[straightpick]

The tension wrenches with the tabs only work with the older SFIC cores with holes in the bottom of the control sleeve. I don't think any of the cores that have been made in a long time have these anymore.

All SFIC capped cores have holes in the bottom of the control sleeves - you would not be able to eject the pins if they did not.

[ToolyMcgee]

I posted this several months ago with color pictures and more details but it was moved to the secret squirrel section so even I couldn't see the reply's to my own post. I'll try again and hope it stays here this time. It seems that there's been a shift in thought here and that locksport's philosophy of open information might now prevail over the desire to keep some things secret to maintain a hobby class system .

That is the thread where you used loctite weld to glue a thin wrench to a corbin russwin LFIC right? An sfic like Best still has holes in the bottom, and if a drop of loctite got in between the control sleeve and plug... well it could be ruined. How are you easily picking any two part epoxy residue out of the cylinder anyway? That's some tough stuff. Do you have to use a solvent?

Personally I like this one better.

1) If you can get your tension wrench to sort of wedge in right where the control sleeve touches the plug, right in that corner, you can sort of put the tension on the control sleeve instead of the plug. It's not an exact science but I've had pretty good luck doing this.

I wonder is a wrench with a long tab shaped tip that thinned down to only put tension on the lug would work for a corbin lfic...

-Tooly

[ridinplugspinnaz]

The tension wrenches with the tabs only work with the older SFIC cores with holes in the bottom of the control sleeve. I don't think any of the cores that have been made in a long time have these anymore.

All SFIC capped cores have holes in the bottom of the control sleeves - you would not be able to eject the pins if they did not.

What maintenanceguy meant to say in his earlier post is not that there is no longer a space in the control sleeve to eject the pin stacks; rather, BEST has modified the control sleeve on their newer locks so that it's completely open below the holes in the bottom of the plug. Leaving a wide-open space on the sleeve down there doesn't affect the operation of the lock, but it does remove any chance you would've had of tensioning the control sleeve independent of the plug.

[straightpick]

[quote][BEST has modified the control sleeve on their newer locks so that it's completely open below the holes in the bottom of the plug./quote]

Haven't run into any of those yet. We have the Best Kaba Peaks and they still have the holes in them. When did Best start this? Any idea what keyways have this? Would be interesting to work on!