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medeco help neded

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medeco help neded

Postby awol70 » 31 Mar 2009 16:29

this 1/2 moon fell out of an ancient Medecoâ„¢ mortise cylinder .
one of these things kind magically "appeared" last time i took apart a Medecoâ„¢ mortise ,too. :?: hmmmm , interesting.
i never really even realized where it had come from until today.
i reassembled my last one w/o this part,and it seems to work fine.
is this part even needed in a lock simply meant for picking?
what is it for?
where does it go?
what does it do?
thanks for reading.
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby awol70 » 31 Mar 2009 16:47

here it is
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby mh » 31 Mar 2009 16:52

I believe it's a hardened steel insert that's supposed to make drilling harder.
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby lunchb0x » 31 Mar 2009 18:25

mh wrote:I believe it's a hardened steel insert that's supposed to make drilling harder.



Yep this is right, if you take the barrel out and turn the cylinder upside down you can see where the hardened plate goes into in the front of the lock, it makes it very fun to drill into.
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby Safecrackin Sammy » 31 Mar 2009 18:51

Thats it!

There are normally two of those pesky things that fall
out when you pull the plug.

Just hardened inserts not needed for picking...
But fun for a carbide drill bit!
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby zeke79 » 31 Mar 2009 19:01

A tip for keeping parts such as these in while working on the locks and during reassembly is to put a dab of lock grease on the part. I use lock saver brand grease and have been pleased with it along with all of their other products. One note about the synthetic grease however is that it will cause rubber parts such as O-rings to swell so they will have to be replaced if you allow the grease to sit on rubber parts so avoid this if at all possible.
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby awol70 » 31 Mar 2009 19:24

ok,thanks guys...=)
much appreciated.
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Re: medeco help neded

Postby raimundo » 1 Apr 2009 8:36

I have always used white petroleum jelly to hold those in place, vaseline ya know. there are typically two of them, one guards the sidebar, and the other may be in front of the shearline. called a drill breaker.
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