Medeco Cylinder, but which model?

[l0ckp1cker]

Hi all,

I've got a Medeco cylinder from my dad, it has a side bar, 2 mushroom pins and a total of 5 pins.
I removed the sidebar on one of the sides to pick it without the side bar first, and eventually aiming for picking it with the side bar (and a wire to rotate the pins).

But what I'm wondering, what type of Medeco cylinder is it?
Here are some pictures (click on the thumbnail for larger image):

Front:


Bottom (or top for US people):


And gutted:


Thanks for any info you might come up with

[sfi72]

It is a Biaxial(2nd gen Medeco)

[SnowyBoy]

Nice!

Want to sell it? I'd love to cut that away!

[l0ckp1cker]

Thanks for the info.
Now I know I want a classic as they are told to be a little easier to pick

My dad wants the lock back when I'm done with it, so I don't think he appreciates a cutaway lock

[Legion303]

You can rotate the pins fine with a short hook. The offsets from center are only 10 degrees when you take the tolerance into account (officially 20 degrees, but 10 will work when you're tensioning the sidebar).

-steve

[l0ckp1cker]

In theory it seems like a fairly straight forward lock to pick like that as they cannot be turned too far, but I still didn't manage to pick it

[JK_the_CJer]

In my experience, Biaxials have larger keyways and are thus easier to pick to shear than Classics. The addition of the tip offsets in Biaxial don't seem to make things harder but meh. Use those handy grub screws to weaken the lock at first to learn how it feels and have a go

[tballard]

Several people more skilled than me have said you can use a short hook to rotate the pins, and they are correct. I will however tell you that I find it far easier to use a length of .020" music wire, bent into a "L"-shape, and gripped in a hobby knife handle. It doesn't have the same coolness factor as picking the whole lock with a single pick, but it is more likely to open the lock. (At least for me)

[l0ckp1cker]

Well, I've picked it now with all 5 pins without the sidebar, and with 3 pins with the side bar.
I used one of the hook picks from the euro / japanese profile set from Southord to rotate the pins as this pick is a true hook and very slim.
Getting better at it one step at the time....

[tballard]

Well, I've picked it now with all 5 pins without the sidebar, and with 3 pins with the side bar.

I'm impressed. How many mushrooms?

[unlisted]

Well, I've picked it now with all 5 pins without the sidebar, and with 3 pins with the side bar.

I'm impressed. How many mushrooms?

About a gram.. maybe two.. oh wait, what are we talking about?

[Artkrp]

Well, I've picked it now with all 5 pins without the sidebar, and with 3 pins with the side bar.

Wow, That is impressive. One day, I will get one of those open. Of course I need to try first. Grats on getting that to open for you,l0ckp1cker!

[l0ckp1cker]

Wow, That is impressive. One day, I will get one of those open. Of course I need to try first. Grats on getting that to open for you,l0ckp1cker!

Thanks

Well, I've picked it now with all 5 pins without the sidebar, and with 3 pins with the side bar.

I'm impressed. How many mushrooms?

See the 3rd image of the original post.
It has 2 mushrooms (pin 2 and 3) so those aren't that hard to set