Serrated pin help.

[lokpikr999]

I picked up a solid body American padlock knockoff at Ace hardware yesterday,and while I was putting my tension wrench in the keyway to attempt to pick it for the first time,I got REAL cocky and thought to myself,"This is gonna be like taking candy from a baby",due to the fact that I've picked practically every lock I have ever gotten my hands on.BOY WAS I WRONG!As soon as I found the first binding pin,I began to press it up and instead of feeling the unique snap when a pin sets,I felt an abnormal light click and then realized the pin was frozen.I then thought to myself."No it can't be!",so then I searched for more binding pins,picked them and the same thing happened.I said to myself,"Please don't let it be!".So after about an hour of trying an absolutely no progress I disassembled it and my worst fears were confirmed.It was a 5 pin lock,in which 3 of the of the 5 top pins were serrated and the last 2 were spool-serrated hybrids(And even the bottom pins had two serrations on them).The only reason I recognized that that this lock had these security pins in it,is the fact that I got the same feedback when I tried to pick a lock that said it had these pins it(Which was the Brinks,6 pin shrouded padlock(The only lock I have never been able to pick)).In conclusion,I realized I have never picked a lock with serrated top pins,so my question here is,aside from reverse picking,what is another way to defeat serrated pins.

[SnowyBoy]

I picked up a solid body American padlock knockoff at Ace hardware yesterday,and while I was putting my tension wrench in the keyway to attempt to pick it for the first time,I got REAL cocky and thought to myself,"This is gonna be like taking candy from a baby",due to the fact that I've picked practically every lock I have ever gotten my hands on.BOY WAS I WRONG!As soon as I found the first binding pin,I began to press it up and instead of feeling the unique snap when a pin sets,I felt an abnormal light click and then realized the pin was frozen.I then thought to myself."No it can't be!",so then I searched for more binding pins,picked them and the same thing happened.I said to myself,"Please don't let it be!".So after about an hour of trying an absolutely no progress I disassembled it and my worst fears were confirmed.It was a 5 pin lock,in which 3 of the of the 5 top pins were serrated and the last 2 were spool-serrated hybrids(And even the bottom pins had two serrations on them).The only reason I recognized that that this lock had these security pins in it,is the fact that I got the same feedback when I tried to pick a lock that said it had these pins it(Which was the Brinks,6 pin shrouded padlock(The only lock I have never been able to pick)).In conclusion,I realized I have never picked a lock with serrated top pins,so my question here is,aside from reverse picking,what is another way to defeat serrated pins.

Raking, lifting, & jiggling... bogota picks work especially well with them. I've got a cutaway GEGE Euro practice lock for sale, £20 if you wanted to see why you keep getting yourself in false sets. It has 4 serrated pins & 1 special pin which I found in another lock

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[tballard]

I pick a lot of Americans and Brinks Shroudeds (which are rebranded Americans afaik). They are actually not that hard once you get the trick. I like a short hook or a gem, and lot of "rocking" tension. Start at the back, work forward, use a lot of little lifts. Once you "set" a pin, accept that it may not really be "set" just hung on a spool or serration. At this point, go back to the back of the lock and work forward again. Basically, the trick is to keep probing the "set" pins again and again. Eventually you will get true sets on all of them and the lock will open.

[Baloopaloop]

hey, does any one know where you can buy serrated pins to practice on, cause I don't get how to pick them either, not to mention I really don't have any to practice on

[lokpikr999]

hey, does any one know where you can buy serrated pins to practice on, cause I don't get how to pick them either, not to mention I really don't have any to practice on

I can't seem to find individual packs of serrated pins for sale,but I did found this kit that contains 13 different sizes of both mushroom pins and serrated pins,I know its 54 bucks,but you most certainly get your money's worth

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Alex.

http://www.lockpicks.com/highsecuritypinkit.aspx

[SnowyBoy]

hey, does any one know where you can buy serrated pins to practice on, cause I don't get how to pick them either, not to mention I really don't have any to practice on

I can't seem to find individual packs of serrated pins for sale,but I did found this kit that contains 13 different sizes of both mushroom pins and serrated pins,I know its 54 bucks,but you most certainly get your money's worth

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Alex.

http://www.lockpicks.com/highsecuritypinkit.aspx

If you want serrated pins, look in GEGE locks. They like using them a lot.

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If you want serrated pins, look in GEGE locks. They like using them a lot.

American locks are also a great source of serrated pins which are probably more accessible, but they are a smaller size than standard pin tumblers.

dg

[vap0r]

I bought some generic deadbolts at ACE HARDWARE and they had 3 serrated pins, and 2 spool pins. $15 special.