What lock would you use for your front door?

[hadees]

I've been picking locks on and off for a while now and although I'm not really terribly good I do know how crappy some locks are. I just bought a new house in an area that is in the early process of gentrification. Its all I could afford but that means there is still a lot of crime. Now I know a crack head is way more likely to throw a brick through my window but I still figured why buy a bad lock if i can avoid it. Cheaper would be better since this is only one small part of my renovation but i really only need 3 dead blots and 3 exterior door knobs with locks I think i'd be willing to splurge a little for quality.

For aesthetic reasons and cost inside my house i've gone with the Schlage F40-GEO Georgian Privacy Door Knob and Schlage F40-GEO Georgian Privacy Door Knob. Obviously they aren't meant to really prevent anyone from anything but there are exterior locks that match them.

What do you think of the Schlage F54-GEO Georgian Single Cylinder Keyed Entry Door Knob Set or Schlage F51-GEO Georgian Single Cylinder Keyed Entry Panic Proof Door Knob Set? I'm not sure i get the reason for the Panic Proofing. And what about dead bloats?

Thanks for the help

[Solomon]

Personally I'd go with something like a Kaba Peaks, Gege pExtra, ASSA twin or something along those lines. But I like fancy things.

[UEDan]

I have a Schlage panic proof door knob, and I personally like the feature. Its just a preference. What I've noticed is that people don't like it because they have a hard time believing the door is locked.

I'd go with the Schlage, they're medium security and 99% of the population have a hard time picking low security locks.


For me, I like it because when I get home, I open the door picks or keys whatever. Go inside, close the door and lock it. Next day, grab my stuff, keys etc. Open panic proof door, shut door. And its still locked.
I've havent forgotten my keys, but luckily for me I always keep a backup set of pick in my wallet.

*Panic proof, as in when you're house is on fire, you wont need to fumble with the lock to get it open. The inside knob will always open the door regardless if its locked or not.

[lock2006]

I'd go with the Schlage, they're medium security and 99% of the population have a hard time picking low security locks.


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I wonder who are the 99% of the population having hard time picking low security locks
i bet you a lot of the member here including me
are able to pick low security lock with no problem.

as far as what lock would you use for your front door will depends on how much money you want to spend
Schlage and Kwikset to easy to pick open
Kaba,Assa ,Abloy including Medeco they run over $100.00 new
also depends where you buy it
hope this helps.

[hydruh]

I have a post on this exact topic here:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31611

Most of the senior members answered.

Notice DB's first reply. That's what I used. I went to Security Snobs, and they did me a BiLock that fits right in my Schlage deadbolt. I reinforced my strikeplate with 3.5" screws, and added shatterproof lining to my window panes.

You know who can pick a Schlage? 100% of the people who WANT in.

S

[hadees]

Thanks Hydruh that thread was really informative I can't believe i didn't find it when I was searching. Anyway it looks like you went with the Bilock? Did you go with the BiLock Retrofit KIK Cylinder? $80 per dead blot isn't horrible since I only need 3. You think I could still use the cheapo Schlage Door Knobs and still be ok? Although can you even get a Bilock to fit into the Schlage Door Knob? I would be nice to have one key for all my exterior locks.

On a side note if I ever loose my keys I wonder who I would call to get me into my house and how much it would cost

[mattc]

Were money no object, I would love one of these.
Just for laughs, I'd call local lockies out, saying I have lost the keys

[UEDan]

I'd go with the Schlage, they're medium security and 99% of the population have a hard time picking low security locks.


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I wonder who are the 99% of the population having hard time picking low security locks
i bet you a lot of the member here including me
are able to pick low security lock with no problem.

as far as what lock would you use for your front door will depends on how much money you want to spend
Schlage and Kwikset to easy to pick open
Kaba,Assa ,Abloy including Medeco they run over $100.00 new
also depends where you buy it
hope this helps.

Urghh you know, the locksport community accounts for less than 1% of the world population. Everyone else aren't willing to learn to pick locks, and most of them believe Kwikset is a secure lock.

Hadees is talking about real world application. And like hadees said. If someone wants to get in they'll use a brick. And since most people don't know how to pick locks, a medium security lock like a Schlage is more than enough. Hell even in the locksport community people have problems picking mounted locks. So a Schalge is enough.

[Legion303]

We have Chinese Kwikset clones on our doors. If you aren't willing to do what hydruh did and beef up your doorframes, strikeplates and windows, that's what you might as well be using too. You'll feel bad if you spend a lot of money on a bilock only to have some burglar kick the bolt right through your weak frame.

Don't forget the hinges, either. 3" screws minimum. I kicked a front door straight off its hinges once (unresponsive family member inside the house)--don't cheap out here.

-steve

[Rickthepick]

maybe going against the grain here but personally i wouldnt fit anything too extravagant to my door.

1/ Criminals generally dont pick locks
2/ I want to be able to get in easily should i lock myself out

As long as your secure against mica bybassing on the latch and have a good length deadbolt/hook, then i really wouldn't worry about it

[Squelchtone]

BiLock Retrofit KIK Cylinder[/url]? $80 per dead blot isn't horrible since I only need 3. You think I could still use the cheapo Schlage Door Knobs and still be ok?

becareful here. Some of the cheap schlage knobs use special cylinders which have shorter bibles and special top pins which allow for more cover strip compression so you can actually get the cylinder inside the knob, which does not have much room to do so. A regular kik cylinder may not fit, so take pics of your knob taken apart and of your current cylinder and tailpiece and mail them to securitysnobs so they can double check if it will work for you.

Squelchtone

[hydruh]

Thanks Hydruh that thread was really informative I can't believe i didn't find it when I was searching.

The search on this site is ... less than optimum. Most of us use Google with a site:locksport.com attribute in there.

Anyway it looks like you went with the Bilock? Did you go with the BiLock Retrofit KIK Cylinder?

That is exactly what I got, but I didn't put it in a knob. I put it in a deadbolt - I don't have a knob on that door. It fit great in a cheap Schlage deadbolt. Squelchtone is right - take a few pictures and send it to SS and they will tell you if it fits in your knob.

S

[thelockpickkid]

We have Chinese Kwikset clones on our doors. If you aren't willing to do what hydruh did and beef up your doorframes, strikeplates and windows, that's what you might as well be using too. You'll feel bad if you spend a lot of money on a bilock only to have some burglar kick the bolt right through your weak frame.

Don't forget the hinges, either. 3" screws minimum. I kicked a front door straight off its hinges once (unresponsive family member inside the house)--don't cheap out here.

-steve

I agree, don't spend a bunch of money on high security locks if your door frames are weak. Won't do you any good. Bottom line is this, if they want in they will get in, all you want to do is buy some time. Get yourself some good Schlage combo's (deadbolts and KIK's) install them correctly, use good hinges. You will be fine.

[svc]

Abloy Exec.
My guess is 98% of Finnish homes have some sort of Abloy. Mostly Abloy Classics but also Profile or Exec are common in newer houses.

[globallockytoo]

Thanks Hydruh that thread was really informative I can't believe i didn't find it when I was searching.

The search on this site is ... less than optimum. Most of us use Google with a site:locksport.com attribute in there.

Anyway it looks like you went with the Bilock? Did you go with the BiLock Retrofit KIK Cylinder?

That is exactly what I got, but I didn't put it in a knob. I put it in a deadbolt - I don't have a knob on that door. It fit great in a cheap Schlage deadbolt. Squelchtone is right - take a few pictures and send it to SS and they will tell you if it fits in your knob.

S

Being a Bilock dealer and having worked with the brand over 20+ years, I personally rely on it and use it. I am constantly installing Bilock cylinders into Schlage products. So far there have been few, if any difficulties.

The only difficulty I have experienced repeatedly, is the position of the tailpiece (or it's width). The Bilock provided ones are more difficult to effectively use, meaning the original tailpiece is probably better. (this is predominantly in entrance sets)

Bilock cylinders cannot be used in F series locksets.