Telecom Lockwood padlocks (Australia)

[SuperDavid]

I've got a couple of old Telecom lockwood padlocks. Probably from the 80's maybe early 90s
I can't pick them, I am a beginner, so not picking them is not a big surprise.
Just wondering what kind of internals these old lockwoods have? There are no special serial numbers on them.
On the left one it has the old telecom symbol etched into it.
and tips or advice to get into these particular lockwoods?

[lockrite]

These are Lockwood 234 6 pin padlocks.
Nothing special about them except that the bitting was reserved for Telecom and the PMG.
They just use standard pins and drivers
The one on the left from Telecom.
The one on the right is older and has the PMG (Post Master General) stamp on it's shackle.

A bit of practice and you will soon be picking them

[SuperDavid]

thanks for that!
atleast now I know what I'm dealing with.
I don't seem to have any feel for it yet so I guess I'll keep hacking away at it!

Thanks!

[globallockytoo]

the combination of the one on right, looks like a toughie.

[lockrite]

I should also mention that those Lockwood padlocks were accuratley machined with very close tolerances.
These close tolerances can be very unforgiving when trying to pick these locks.
Also note the high pins after the deep pins.
at times these can be frustratingly difficult to set if the deep pin sets first.

If you are just starting out I would suggest you put these locks aside and try something easier until you develope your technique.

[thelockpickkid]

I have a lockwood padlock, it is one of the hardest locks I have to pick, nothing special about the pins as mentioned, other than they are stainless steel. Very tight tolerances. I have never picked it, I just look at it!!

[SuperDavid]

I feel that my picks might be a bit high as it gets closer to the handle(I've got the southord PXS-14 kit). I think maybe when I'm trying to push pins up at the back I'm also pushing up pins at the front.
I bought a $10 non lockwood padlock from bunnings and I can pick that very easily and I can pick my shed lock, medicine cabinet, booze cabinet in the shed, spare front door handle push button lock.
I've got a lockwood front door lock and my security door that I can't unlock.
Lockwood is my aim but I think I need to find something inbetween for now.
What would you guys call a medium difficulty lock?

[globallockytoo]

I feel that my picks might be a bit high as it gets closer to the handle(I've got the southord PXS-14 kit). I think maybe when I'm trying to push pins up at the back I'm also pushing up pins at the front.
I bought a $10 non lockwood padlock from bunnings and I can pick that very easily and I can pick my shed lock, medicine cabinet, booze cabinet in the shed, spare front door handle push button lock.
I've got a lockwood front door lock and my security door that I can't unlock.
Lockwood is my aim but I think I need to find something inbetween for now.
What would you guys call a medium difficulty lock?

Whitco or Carbine or Brava etc. in Oz, IMHO

[lockrite]

I have a lockwood padlock, it is one of the hardest locks I have to pick, nothing special about the pins as mentioned, other than they are stainless steel. Very tight tolerances. I have never picked it, I just look at it!!

Lockwood use Nickle Silver pins in their locks not stainless steel.

[lockrite]

I bought a $10 non lockwood padlock from bunnings and I can pick that very easily and I can pick my shed lock, medicine cabinet, booze cabinet in the shed, spare front door handle push button lock.
I've got a lockwood front door lock and my security door that I can't unlock.
Lockwood is my aim but I think I need to find something inbetween for now.
What would you guys call a medium difficulty lock?

Sounds like you should be thinking about upgrading your locks.
Locks like Lockwood might be more expensive than the imports but, as they say ... you get what you pay for.

[rhyno]

I too have a Telecom Lock that I think was left over from my fathers days working for Telecom. It seems I am in a similar position to SuperDavid, as I can pick basic locks from the hardware store, but not the Telecom. One thing i feel is that the pins are much smoother in their action, and slip back once set very easily. I suppose this all has to do with the tight tolerances as mentioned.
I'll keep trying though.

[globallockytoo]

Those padlocks are no different than virtually any other standard lockwood lock. Spacing is
always .156 and depth is .020 increment.

Pins are nickel brass. Top pins are all the same length. Most are master keyed making then even easier to pick.

The keyway profile might be awkward to get your turning wrench in, but using a thinner rake or hook will work fairly well.

[jennypatel]

These Telecom locks are amazing and good to see such old locks of 80's or early 90's locks here. These locks work on the pins and drivers. It seems that these locks must be heavy.