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BiLock pull out rating?

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BiLock pull out rating?

Postby SnowyBoy » 20 Mar 2010 13:31

Was researching BiLocks for future cutaways when I realised what holds the plug in the case..... two ball bearings.

Got me curious to what the pull out rating is on these.... any one know?
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby globallockytoo » 20 Mar 2010 13:34

1000lbs
One One was a race horse, one one won one race, one two was a racehorse, one two won one too.

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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby SnowyBoy » 20 Mar 2010 17:07

That's not a lot really is it? Or am I thinking in KJ?
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby pjzstones » 20 Mar 2010 18:38

SnowyBoy wrote:That's not a lot really is it? Or am I thinking in KJ?

1000 lbs = 453.60 kg
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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby Josh K » 20 Mar 2010 19:03

SnowyBoy wrote:That's not a lot really is it? Or am I thinking in KJ?


KJ = Kilojoules?

I believe by "pull-out" that's 1000lbs pulling straight from the face. In order to pull out say a BiLock cylinder in a floor mounted safe it would be the equivalent of lifting 1000lbs.
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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby SnowyBoy » 20 Mar 2010 20:08

Hmmm..... is that a lot then? I remember reading about the EVVA 3KS and it said '14000' something on the rating and i can't remember what measurement it used.

What's the standard for a high security lock then?
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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby Josh K » 20 Mar 2010 20:13

SnowyBoy wrote:Hmmm..... is that a lot then? I remember reading about the EVVA 3KS and it said '14000' something on the rating and i can't remember what measurement it used.

What's the standard for a high security lock then?


No idea. :)
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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby pjzstones » 20 Mar 2010 23:03

Josh K wrote:
SnowyBoy wrote:That's not a lot really is it? Or am I thinking in KJ?


KJ = Kilojoules?

I believe by "pull-out" that's 1000lbs pulling straight from the face. In order to pull out say a BiLock cylinder in a floor mounted safe it would be the equivalent of lifting 1000lbs.

whats a kilojoule? never heard of it. plus i'm not too familiar with the metric system if thats what it is.
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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby pjzstones » 20 Mar 2010 23:06

never mind wikipedia'd it
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Re: BiLock pull out rating?

Postby zeke79 » 21 Mar 2010 21:34

Maybe think of it this way. Most full sized V8 4x4 pickup truck engines only deliver around the mid 300lb range in ft lbs of torque at the optimal RPM. Personally I would think that other parts inside the lock that you used to hook onto for pulling would hit their shear point before you hit the 1000lb mark.

I'd have to look back at my info, but I know during testing that the master pro series padlocks with boron alloy shackles and ball bearing locking setup failed somewhere in the 1000lb range. I'm not sure where in the 1000 lb range they failed at, it could have been upper 1000's but as I said I don't recall for sure. I do know that this was pulling against very hard yet somewhat elastic shackles, larger bearings than the bilock, and steel internals with a laminated body under those pretty plastic covers.

Personally I think 1000lbs is alot of resistance to pulling for a qcc core. I wouldn't hesitate using any bilock product to secure my home, faimily, and precious items
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