Best Deadbolt Under $100?

[akret]

Moving into a new house and want to get the most secure locks I can under $100. I have 3 doors and simply can't spend $150+ on each door for Abloys. What do you all recommend?

[Squelchtone]

Moving into a new house and want to get the most secure locks I can under $100. I have 3 doors and simply can't spend $150+ on each door for Abloys. What do you all recommend?

http://www.medecodeals.com/Medeco-m3-Single-Cylinder-Maxum-Deadbolt_p_20.html

Squelchtone

[Josh K]

I wouldn't be so concerned about the lock as I was about the doors / windows / other access points.

Though that's a pretty good find at $110 for a M3.

[globallockytoo]

I am selling grade 3 residential deadbolts with Bilock cylinders for $98.00 each.

They are Cal-Royal LSD-01's and Bilock cylinders and cores.

PM me for details

[nostromo]

I'm with Josh K. Locks can only provide security to the strength of the weakest point in your structure. Your level of security is always a balance with economics.
Do a full security assessment not only of your home, but of the most likely threats to security.

I teach a Non-Destructive Entry course for Law Enforcement - patrol, investigators, SWAT, EOD, vice, undercover, etc and always ask each class how sophisticated the criminals are when it comes to break-ins. None have ever reported working a case where the thief used lockpicks or any kind of special entry tool. In order of frequency, most-often used methods are home invasion (forcing their way past whoever answers the door), taking advantage of open doors or windows, kicking in the door or smashing a window. Rarely will even a crowbar or screwdriver be used.

[Klaiviel]

Here is my suggestion; go to https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-Protec- ... inder.html and pick up 3 Abloy Protec KIK cylinders for $75 a piece. That is well within the budget you set and you don't have to compromise on security. If the locks on the house don't accept KIK cylinders which most don't, that leaves you $75 which is enough to get some decent deadbolts that do accept KIK cylinders.

Remember during your lock installation to change out the strike plate screws for 3 inch screws that go through the door jamb and into the studs. A Protec on your door doesn't do a bit of good if I can just kick the door in. Also make sure you don't have windows in your doors or anything stupid like that, if you do put security laminate on them.

[Klaiviel]

I'm with Josh K. Locks can only provide security to the strength of the weakest point in your structure. Your level of security is always a balance with economics.
Do a full security assessment not only of your home, but of the most likely threats to security.

I teach a Non-Destructive Entry course for Law Enforcement - patrol, investigators, SWAT, EOD, vice, undercover, etc and always ask each class how sophisticated the criminals are when it comes to break-ins. None have ever reported working a case where the thief used lockpicks or any kind of special entry tool. In order of frequency, most-often used methods are home invasion (forcing their way past whoever answers the door), taking advantage of open doors or windows, kicking in the door or smashing a window. Rarely will even a crowbar or screwdriver be used.

You know you may be right about the most common methods of home invasion; however, I think their is something fundamentally wrong with the fact that about 75% of people where I live use Kwikset locks and I can almost open a Kwikset by blowing on it. I think relying on the average criminals ignorance of lockpicking for protection is a bit foolish.

I totally agree with you though that if you are going to do security you need to look at the whole picture not just the locks.

[globallockytoo]

correct me if i'm wrong, but arent most protec knk cylinders of a wider diameter than most conventional cylinders?

That would mean that it is necessary to ream the cylinder hole in each knobset to accept the protec housing. This also means there is no reverting back later to a conventional cylinder if you want or need to.

$75 is cheap but, having to have specialty tools to modify the existing kobset would add significantly to the overall cost.

[Klaiviel]

I am not sure as to the diameter of the Protec KIK because I have never handled one; however, I think you have misunderstood me. The request was for the best deadbolt under $100 and while KIK stands for key in knob I had no intentions of these being used in a knobset. According to the official list that is cited at https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-Protec- ... inder.html this Protec KIK should drop into a Schlage B160N deadbolt with no modification so long as you order the CY410 version. I looked up the B160N on ebay and it looks like they are going for $27.50 which is right around what I said before to expect for a deadbolt to drop the KIK in to. http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHLAGE-B160N-Singl ... 335b3c62a1

[globallockytoo]

I have installed and built Protec cylinders and for some products, the cylinder hole does need to be reamed, that is why I asked.

Security Snobs is my competition for Bilock. I dont understand their pricing structure when they do not even own their own machinery - they purchase from the factory and resell. (at higher prices than equipment owners)

Arguably, the client can request that anyone order their keys from the factory....not necessarily through Security Snobs.

I wont do it....but I know other companies will to make a buck.

The newer B160 cylinder housing has been made larger to accomodate the slew of high-security cylinders available.

Have you ever keyed up a Protec cylinder yourself? Do you know how?

[Klaiviel]

No I haven't and no I don't know how. So what you are saying is that the B160 cylinder housing has been enlarged to accept this KIK? Whereas if I tried to install one of these in my B60 I might run into problems? So would modification still be necessary if he went with the B160 locks like I suggested?

[globallockytoo]

Kind of off topic now....but I remember about 20 years ago here in the USA, there was some building code or something somewhere that mentioned that key cylinders were required to not turn 360º, to activate or deactivate a locking mechanism. Perhaps that is one reason that Abloy, never really took off here.

How many locks do you know of here that turn 360º? (euro cylinders are one)

[nostromo]

How many locks do you know of here that turn 360º?

Kinda depends on who's been trying to pick it.

[yng_pick]

Tend to run into classroom style locks all over the place here, unless you are referring specifically to deadbolts, Globallockytoo.

[akret]

Great stuff. Yeah I'll be installing door jamb armor or MAG for sure, but want to certainly go higher class than the locks they sell at BBSs.

Squelch - I've heard some not-so-good things floating around about Medeco - http://ww.techdirt.com/blog.php?company ... n=techdirt

Is it largely BS? Obviously I'm not in the pentagon and whoever wants to get in my house most likely wont be a professional crew.