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Which door lock would be of higher quality?

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Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 12:32

A) Tell Manufacturing: KT2100 SERIES Grade level 2

Performance
Complies with ANSI A156.2, Series 4000, Grade 2, 400,000 cycles, UL Listed for 3 hour fire door

6 pin cylinder

Tell Manufacturing specs link
http://www.tellmfg.com/Grade2_Com_Features_KT2100.html

B) Weiser Fairfax Grade level 3

5 pin cylinder

http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I2333907/name/lock_entrance_fairfax_stn_chr_bx

The reason why I ask if they are around the same price, the Weiser seems to be a a residential lock while the Tull is a light duty commercial lock. I did buy the Weiser ,but I am disappointed in the quality seems extremely cheap, and feels like it's gonna break every time you use the key.

So I am hoping the A) Tell Manufacturing: KT2100 SERIES Grade level 2 would be of better quality, inside and out.
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby criminalhate » 15 Jul 2010 13:29

what are you buying this for?
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 16:45

criminalhate wrote:what are you buying this for?


I am buying it for a bedroom, but I want a solid door knob, not a cheap feeling or cheaply made one either.

So I am looking at the Tell Manufacturing kc2300
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http://www.tellmfg.com/Grade2_Com_Features_KC2300.html
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby Squelchtone » 15 Jul 2010 18:07

darklide wrote:I am buying it for a bedroom, but I want a solid door knob, not a cheap feeling or cheaply made one either.


If your door is hollow core, does it really matter what kind of lock you buy?

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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby jpb06080 » 15 Jul 2010 18:37

ANYTHING BUT WEISER!!!! KWIKSET OVER WEISER!!
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 18:38

squelchtone wrote:
darklide wrote:I am buying it for a bedroom, but I want a solid door knob, not a cheap feeling or cheaply made one either.


If your door is hollow core, does it really matter what kind of lock you buy?

Squelchtone


Of course not, but i am a little strange I guess I like a solid feel, not a cheap feel, as when you open or unlock a door and the handle feels like its all made of plastic, drives me nuts.
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby Dak » 15 Jul 2010 19:30

In my experience weiser locks aren't very secure. You can rake them as well as you would your lawn.

The other lock I cant speak for, but one thing does come to mind. I wouldn't be as concerned for the lock quality of a bedroom as I would for a front door. Likewise, as squelchtone said, if your door is a hollow core the lock doesnt really matter.
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby MacGyver101 » 15 Jul 2010 19:58

jpb06080 wrote:ANYTHING BUT WEISER!!!! KWIKSET OVER WEISER!!

Weiser and Kwikset are the same company. Is there something I'm missing?
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby jpb06080 » 16 Jul 2010 0:33

yeah, same company as of 2003 in that they are both owned by black & decker and have pretty much the same lines. I was basically being sarcastic, although prior to the merge, I would absolutely say that weiser locks were even worse than kwikset for a number of reasons. Many of their locks required special tools to service, (i know, kwikset uses a special rekey tool, but its really not necessary) extra long followers to rekey, etc, not to mention the god awful quality and overall flimsyness of their products. As a general rule of thumb, I would say avoid weiser like the plague. I rarely see their products these days as I mostly just do commercial work, but my past experiences with them have been truly hellish.
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby mtcrowe » 16 Jul 2010 20:02

Weisers use plastic for their cores, and have a bad habit of breaking springs requiring a locked knob to be drilled off the door.

As for Tell, their springs are weak and have a tendacy to develope handle sag over time. You'd be better off using PDQ if pricing is a factor.

Over-all I'd say for a bedroom door, go with Kwikset Titan.
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby darklide » 17 Jul 2010 13:44

So if the springs sag down the road cant a locksmith replace them? And are the Tell door knobs that are 6 pin keyed to 6 pin or 5 pin?
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Re: Which door lock would be of higher quality?

Postby mtcrowe » 18 Jul 2010 4:14

The sagging springs I mentioned are the ones that cause the lever or knob to return to the neutral position. These are encased in the cylindical body of the lock, and aren't intended to be replaced or serviced (though it can be done).

Most 6 pin cylinders come bitted to 5 pin.
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