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Tubular vs Cylindrical

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Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 12:57

Is Cylindrical locks always better quality more secure? When compared to Tubular locks?
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby MacGyver101 » 15 Jul 2010 13:03

No: I'd rate an ACE II or a Van Lock much higher in security than something like a Kwikset. (Unless I'm misunderstanding your question?)
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 13:12

MacGyver101 wrote:No: I'd rate an ACE II or a Van Lock much higher in security than something like a Kwikset. (Unless I'm misunderstanding your question?)


Well I am trying to decide between:

A) Tell Manufacturing KT2100 (Tubular) 34.99 Cdn
B) Tell Manufacturing KT2300 (Cylindrical) 56.99 Cdn

They look the same:

Both have the Schlage (SCC) - 6-pin solid brass, C keyway cylinder.

Both are grade 2 security, but the Kt2300 is cylindrical in design while the kt2100 is tubular.
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 13:23

As i cant edit, actually the kc2300 is $ 69.99 cdn
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby criminalhate » 15 Jul 2010 13:24

Neither of those are actually a tubular lock. They are both pin tumbler locks. The reference is to the shape of the cylinder so use the one that fits your application.

In fact since I can only find reference to one of them right now I dont think there is a real difference except price.

Have you looked to find out the length of the cylinders? What is the application you are trying to use these in?
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 13:34

criminalhate wrote:Neither of those are actually a tubular lock. They are both pin tumbler locks. The reference is to the shape of the cylinder so use the one that fits your application.

In fact since I can only find reference to one of them right now I dont think there is a real difference except price.

Have you looked to find out the length of the cylinders? What is the application you are trying to use these in?


The Kt2100 :http://www.tellmfg.com/Grade2_Com_Features_KT2100.html

The Kc2300

http://www.tellmfg.com/Grade2_Com_Features_KC2300.html

I plan to use the lock on my bedroom, I dont want anyone getting in too easy and I want durability, and good construction I hate locks that feel like they are going to break when you unlock them.
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 13:35

Kc2300 Image

Kt2100
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 13:36

Kc2300 Image
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby criminalhate » 15 Jul 2010 13:38

As long as they use a real key either would be fine for a bedroom door.
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 13:40

criminalhate wrote:As long as they use a real key either would be fine for a bedroom door.


Ok so is the kt2100 actually tubular and the kc2300 is cylindrical ?
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby pjzstones » 15 Jul 2010 13:59

the kc2300 is a standard pin tumbler. the kt2100 looks like it doesn't use a key. it looks like the kind of lock that you can use a coin, screwdriver, or anything esle that's flat to unlock it. a lot of inside locks are like that. they're for privacy not security.
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby Squelchtone » 15 Jul 2010 14:00

darklide wrote:
criminalhate wrote:As long as they use a real key either would be fine for a bedroom door.


Ok so is the kt2100 actually tubular and the kc2300 is cylindrical ?


They're both cylindrical sets, the person who was typing the description at that website simply chose the incorrect word to use. A tubular lock is the kind that you find on the front of a Coke machine, and looks like this:
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Another one that's often said incorrectly is when people are selling padlocks and instead of saying the shackle is 3 inches, they say the SHANK is 3 inches, which is totally not what the part is called. Once you learn the correct wording you can weed through the anomalies you may encounter in online store descriptions.

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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 14:08

Thanks everyone for the great replies.

Here is the kc2300:
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And the Kt2100
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So there defiantly is a difference, the kt2100 looks like a normal door knob while the kc2300 actually looks commercial.
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby jpb06080 » 15 Jul 2010 15:02

tubular locksets vs cylindrical locksets don't imply a difference in the type of cylinder being used, ie van/ace type as opposed to standard 5 pin. Tubular locksets are grade 3 residential knobs or levers where the latch extends to through the crossbore. An example of this would be kwikset or schlage f-line. Cylindrical locksets are arrow style, where the latch doesn't reach past the edge of the center hole. They tend to be of better quality, intended for commercial applications.
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Re: Tubular vs Cylindrical

Postby darklide » 15 Jul 2010 15:08

jpb06080 wrote:tubular locksets vs cylindrical locksets don't imply a difference in the type of cylinder being used, ie van/ace type as opposed to standard 5 pin. Tubular locksets are grade 3 residential knobs or levers where the latch extends to through the crossbore. An example of this would be kwikset or schlage f-line. Cylindrical locksets are arrow style, where the latch doesn't reach past the edge of the center hole. They tend to be of better quality, intended for commercial applications.


Ok by looking at the two diagrams above which one is Cylindrical if either?
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