Slovenian ward locks(almost every house has them for inside)

[rissp]

Here in Slovenia almost every house has ward-locks for less importand doors (always inside - wc, rooms, itd.), for outside doors the most people uses 5pin tumbler-pins (last 5 years or so they are changing to more secure double-sided locks,magnetic locks,etc.)

So, what I wanted to say, we use here one particular type of ward locks for inner-doors. I don't know that in other countries (others than ex-Yugoslavian republics as Slovenia) you use these types. One of typical ward-keys here (picture below) , they are all the same big, the difference is in wards at the end and at key-entrance protection (left up,left down , right up, right down)

I provided some pictures from these keys.

[rissp]

Sorry,the board attachment quota has been reached??.sorry

[rissp]

And maybe I should write this in "europian locks..." ?

[RevDisk]

Sorry,the board attachment quota has been reached??.sorry

There is always:

http://imageshack.us
http://photobucket.com
http://tinypic.com
http://www.flickr.com

And likely plenty of other photo hosting service.

Wouldn't mind seeing one of the locks dissected!

[rissp]

As I studied more these locks and keys, I managed to make a key which opens a 90% of locks of this type.
Now I'm little confused about these locks, are these WARDED or LEVER locks?
Here, I uploaded some of images of keys (thanks to RevDisk,on imageshack), later today I'll make a photo of lock dissected.

IMAGES OF KEYS :

Key 1 :





Key 2 :




3 keys (2 of most used Yugoslavian type (used after 1960's) and third, older (the first one is the older , used before 1960's) :





Is I writed before, I managed to dissamble one of these locks (the most used type,used after 1960's) , i'll upload photos of it later today.. I'll upload photo's of my skeleton key, which I made (it opens at least 90% of these locks.

[RevDisk]

As I studied more these locks and keys, I managed to make a key which opens a 90% of locks of this type.
Now I'm little confused about these locks, are these WARDED or LEVER locks?
Here, I uploaded some of images of keys (thanks to RevDisk,on imageshack), later today I'll make a photo of lock dissected.

Is I writed before, I managed to dissamble one of these locks (the most used type,used after 1960's) , i'll upload photos of it later today.. I'll upload photo's of my skeleton key, which I made (it opens at least 90% of these locks.

If you took a regular key, shaved it down, and now it opens the overwhelming majority of locks of the same type? It's a warded lock. Warded locks are basically "Allow Any Key", and then a list of "Deny This Specific Type of Key".


Random guess, did the Uprava Državne Varnosti mandate those locks be the only ones sold in the entire country?

[Squelchtone]

Random guess, did the Uprava Državne Varnosti mandate those locks be the only ones sold in the entire country?

sounds like something the Stasi/KGB would do as well.

[rissp]

Random guess, did the Uprava Državne Varnosti mandate those locks be the only ones sold in the entire country?

Hahaha, I don't know if they regulated this (of course not publicly) but yes, they were the only types people could buy for inside doors. For outside doors they used tumbler-pin locks (titan). Even now, 18-19 years from Yugoslavia, If you go to locksmith and you ask for new lock, he automaticly gives you "Titan" 5pin tumbler-pin lock (maybe he has just these) , at least in smaller cities. Of course you can buy any kind of lock last years, but just in bigger stores..
As for inner dors (warded lever locks), now you can buy other type of locks , but in Yugoslavia there were 1 type before 1960's and one type after 1960's (at least everyone has these)...

[rissp]

If you took a regular key, shaved it down, and now it opens the overwhelming majority of locks of the same type?

Yes, i shawed both sides (aside, where there was protection that key couldn't fit in the lock) , and now it opens almost every lock of this yougoslavian type after 1960's.

[RevDisk]

Random guess, did the Uprava Državne Varnosti mandate those locks be the only ones sold in the entire country?

sounds like something the Stasi/KGB would do as well.

The UDB (English: Department of State Security or State Security Service) was the Stasi/KGB of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

Compared to the Stasi/KGB, they were quite lenient and likely only killed hundreds or thousands of Yugoslav citizens. Mind you, this is quite horrible but compared to the Cheka/NKVD/KGB, who killed tens of millions... Of course, the Yugoslav and Hungarian intel services did a lot of the KGB's external assassinations...

And yea, from what I understand, you are quite correct. There are allegedly Stasi and KGB skeleton keys for Soviet era residential locks. I'm trying to locate a bunch of said locks to see if I can replicate said keys.

Random guess, did the Uprava Državne Varnosti mandate those locks be the only ones sold in the entire country?

Hahaha, I don't know if they regulated this (of course not publicly) but yes, they were the only types people could buy for inside doors. For outside doors they used tumbler-pin locks (titan). Even now, 18-19 years from Yugoslavia, If you go to locksmith and you ask for new lock, he automaticly gives you "Titan" 5pin tumbler-pin lock (maybe he has just these) , at least in smaller cities. Of course you can buy any kind of lock last years, but just in bigger stores..
As for inner dors (warded lever locks), now you can buy other type of locks , but in Yugoslavia there were 1 type before 1960's and one type after 1960's (at least everyone has these)...

If you took a regular key, shaved it down, and now it opens the overwhelming majority of locks of the same type?

Yes, i shawed both sides (aside, where there was protection that key couldn't fit in the lock) , and now it opens almost every lock of this yougoslavian type after 1960's.

Ayep. Warded lock. I'm definitely looking forward to the pictures of the internals of that lock.

I remember those locks quite well. Didn't have a chance to rip them apart though!