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by Rickthepick » 20 Apr 2011 13:06
came across a wired tool in my junk the other day called a schlage wafer tool.
Its like 4 hollow profile keys with just the end piece and a spike
no instructions and i have no idea how its supposed to work?
Im guessing an american gadget.
any use to anyone?
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by MacGyver101 » 20 Apr 2011 14:03
Is it a set of these? Schlage Wafer Pick SetI've not run into a Schlage Wafer lock myself, so don't know much about them.
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by Rickthepick » 20 Apr 2011 14:24
yep thats the one, no idea how i ended up with one :-S
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by FarmerFreak » 20 Apr 2011 19:51
I have worked on Schlage wafer locks before. I've never had or used those "special" picks. But let's take a look at the last sentence in the product summary. **Standard lock picks cannot be used on Schlage wafer locks - they will not work.
And now let's fix the quote so it's actually accurate. **Standard lock picks can be used on Schlage wafer locks - they will work just fine because those locks are typically really easy to pick. 
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by Rickthepick » 21 Apr 2011 1:58
Lol i suspected as much. I did find the instructions too, something about lifting a certain 'control' wafer in the lock before using the spikey thing to basically lift them all together. They seem pretty old picks so i guess things have advanced since then 
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by shadow11612 » 21 Apr 2011 5:39
That Schlage pick set is really easy to use and opens those locks in about 2 seconds. Schlage wafers have 4 different keyways, hence the 4 ground keys. Choose the correct one, insert into the bottom of the keyway. Then slide the "spike", as you called it, along the top of the ground key until it stops, apply tension to the key and remove the spike. The lock will then mysteriously open. 
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by Rickthepick » 21 Apr 2011 9:43
the only schlage i have ever seen/picked was on an american motorhome. That was a primus so i dont know if this tool would have worked or that
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by thelockpickkid » 21 Apr 2011 14:53
I don't consider myself an advanced picker but I have never seen a Schlage wafer that I couldn't pick easier than a common Kwikset, don't know why they made those special tools, never seen any reason to own them to pick these, aside from them being very uncommon anymore, they are a breeze to pick. Don't spend any money for the special tools.
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by shadow11612 » 22 Apr 2011 9:21
Rickthepick wrote:the only schlage i have ever seen/picked was on an american motorhome. That was a primus so i dont know if this tool would have worked or that
This tool is specifically for the Schlage wafer locks. They were very common on US homes built in the 70s. I do not think they have been made since the late 70s or early 80s. This tool would definitely not work on a Primus, or any other Schlage pin tumbler lock. As for spending the money on these, I would agree that they are not needed. Besides my set of these are home made from some old key blanks that I happened to have laying around and just wanted to make the tool.
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by Thursday » 23 Nov 2012 13:13
Just changed the locks on the forestry research centre close to my town and pulled off a ton of these things - no keys for any of them, though! Looking to take them apart and clean them up a little. Anyone know if the cores are interchangable with new Schlage? Love the looks of the old things, but without a "C" keyway they're not going to be much use to folks...
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by MrWizard » 24 Nov 2012 0:46
The picks hold down the master wafer on the tip. No you cannot put a pin tumbler C keyway in them. I have never had to use these picks and some of these locks being old and dirty can be hard to pick. Not made at all like a regular wafer lock with all the wafers needed to be lifted, while your lifting some you are actually making them lock the cyld. Series wafers and master wafer on tip are locking the cyld without a key in it when the cut key is inserted the uncut areas hold the series wafer down the the cuts let the combination wafers fall back down to where they were before the key was inserted. Very strange concept. Used to have to rekey these all the time on a apt complex with a master key system hated it. 
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by MBI » 24 Nov 2012 2:06
Thursday wrote:Just changed the locks on the forestry research centre close to my town and pulled off a ton of these things - no keys for any of them, though! Looking to take them apart and clean them up a little. Anyone know if the cores are interchangable with new Schlage? Love the looks of the old things, but without a "C" keyway they're not going to be much use to folks...
You'll need a few more posts before you can do so (rules of the Buy-Sell-Trade forum), but if I were you I'd just sell them here. They don't come up on the secondary market very often anymore and I'll bet there are a lot of pickers on the forum with Schlage wafer picks who would love to get their hands on one of the locks to play with.
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by LockDocWa » 24 Nov 2012 12:03
As MrWizard stated, the main reason these picks were invented was to pull / push the master wafer at the tip of the lock.
The ironic thing I see is this pick was created when these locks were new. Now that the locks have say 40 years of wear, my largest tension wrench spins freely in the keyway, now is when those would come in handy.
I had both of these, but over time I have lost the 1307W / SC22 set.
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by RubberBanned » 1 Apr 2014 22:54
Bit of necromancy, but I got a batch of these locks from my Grandfather out of his old barn, if you're interested in getting rid of the tool? PM me if you'd like to work our some details.
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by cledry » 3 Apr 2014 15:54
shadow11612 wrote:That Schlage pick set is really easy to use and opens those locks in about 2 seconds. Schlage wafers have 4 different keyways, hence the 4 ground keys. Choose the correct one, insert into the bottom of the keyway. Then slide the "spike", as you called it, along the top of the ground key until it stops, apply tension to the key and remove the spike. The lock will then mysteriously open. 
Are you sure? I thought there were 2 keyways, A & W. The reason there are 4 picks is because the picks may work better on the top or sometimes they work better on the bottom of the keyway.
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