help with masterlock #40 and masterlock Vline

[figmuffin]

I have not been picking for that long, but have gotten good at most 5 pin non security pin locks. I have also gotten the master 140 down pretty well. So this brings me to my point. I just bought a master 40 and one that looks and feels alot like a 140, but it says Vline on the bottom. Both of these are giving me alot of trouble. I searched the forum and found a few things on the 40, but besides a little extra tension, what other tips do you have? and the vline lock seems to have alot of security pins, and i have not been able to beat it yet. Any help would be great, thanks!

[figmuffin]

I got the Vline down, can get it in about 20 secs now, but the #40 is still kicking my ass...I cant seem to get the tension down, it seems to bind very easily no matter what pin i pick first.

[lock2006]

Hi i found this info for Master locks 140 hope this helps.



The Master #140 is a good lock for a beginner that is looking to step up a bit from the really loosey-goosey locks out there
It features four pins and two of them are typically spools. The spools will cause a good bit of plug rotation when they false set. When this happens, lighten up tension slightly and keep pressing the pin that false-set. If you start feeling or seeing the plug rotate in the direction opposite of the tension you are applying (it will start trying to rotate counter-clockwise in this case), then you can be sure you are working on a spool pin. After pressing the pin up a bit, the plug will stop counter-rotating, keep lifting the pin. At this point the shearline is riding on the bottom ring of the spool. A tiny bit of lifting later and you'll feel it set again and get some plug rotation. At this point the plug will turn and the lock will open. If not, start checking the other pins for sets and false sets. Sometimes a single rake or two is all it takes to finish locks like these off once the security pins have

good luck figmuffin.