Darn Defiant Deadbolts

[emule]

Does anyone know where to get spec info on Defiant labeled deadbolts? I can't to seem to find any. They're like ghost locks.

Maybe made in Canada.

I need to know the security levels availible.

Thanks many times.

[moeburn]

Me too, i've got one, and i pulled the cylinder out of its housing, but the pins and springs were stored in the housing, and i have no idea how to get them back in.

[hzatorsk]

Perhaps you pulled the 'plug' out of the 'cylinder'.

I am not familar specifically with the 'Defiant' line... But, generally repinning a cylinder: All you need is a pair of tweezers and a dowel of the same diameter as the plug.

For those locks that do not have a removable plate above the springs, the way the springs and pins are reinserted back into the cylinder is to use a 'plug follower'.

The idea is to load a spring and top driver pin into position, press the top pin into the first pin well in the cylinder and hold it into place using a dowel (your plug follower) of the same diameter as the plug.

Each spring and top pin is inserted one at a time and the plug follower advanced to hold subsequent pins into place.

You end up with a wooden dowel holding all the springs and top pins into place with a wooden dowel instead of the plug.

With the key in the plug... pin the plug with the lower pins and insert it into the cylinder. Carefully pushing the follower out of the cylinder as you go.

Some people don't use the plug follower at all, but instead... use the plug itself (already correctly pinned) as if it were the follower.

Attach the plug retainer and you are done.

It's about a three minute job.

For those locks with a removal plate... simply drop the correct pins and springs into the pin wells and replace the retaining plate.

[moeburn]

Ohhhhh

Yeah mine doesn't have a removeable plate, it has the holes at the top of it plugged with metal stoppers. The problem is, i stupidly tried to remove those stoppers by chiseling them out, and now they're just deeper in, so i'm thinking an allen wrench should be able to push them back up...

[HeadHunterCEO]

just go buy another for $3

garbage

[moeburn]

just go buy another for $3

garbage

I wish they were $3, I went to Canadian Tire and Home Depot, the cheapest I could find was $13. I fixed the plugs by putting a flathead screwdriver in perpindicular and hammering the outside of the screw driver really hard.

[NKT]

Any long pins are not going to clear the plug unless you get those spring plugs (stoppers) back up! You will also have changed the spring tensions. Does the key still work? If not, you will never pick it, and you have trashed the lock. You might be able to rescue it if you dig about a bit and learn how these things work, then remove the stoppers that are blocking it.

But $13 is a cheap lock, seriously.

hzatorsk,
I use the pinned plug as the follower, and just use a straight pick to push the springs and top pins into place. It's quite a quick process, and saves a lot of messing. Keeps your fingers nimble too! Doing it with tweezers is rather hard, imx.
Just drop a spring and a pin into the back of the lock, and push it round with the pick till in place, then slide the plug up and repeat.

[moeburn]

Any long pins are not going to clear the plug unless you get those spring plugs (stoppers) back up! You will also have changed the spring tensions. Does the key still work? If not, you will never pick it, and you have trashed the lock. You might be able to rescue it if you dig about a bit and learn how these things work, then remove the stoppers that are blocking it.
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I know they wouldn't get very high, but I didnt push the plugs down far enough so that it would be impossible to pick. I knew it was possible to pick, because I tried repinning it before pushing the plugs back up, and the cylinder still fit. Once i got the plugs back up, the key worked too.

Once I figured out the proper mechanics to use (move the force laterally away from the plugs by sticking a nail in each hole, putting a flathead screwdriver in, and hammering it outside the lock, transfer force back to the plugs), it was quite easy to fix it.