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Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering lock

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Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering lock

Postby psehorne » 5 Sep 2011 14:14

I need to cut a key for a 1996 Suzuki 1400 Intruder steering lock. I have determined that the NE7 blank fits. The lock has 0154 imprinted on it, but I don't know if this is the direct key code or a blind code (also don't know for sure it is only takes four cuts). I 'think' I have the cut spacing for the key (from the shoulder .125 and increments of .95), but I don't know the cut depths.

Can someone please help?

Thanks,
Paul
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Re: Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering l

Postby vov35 » 5 Sep 2011 15:09

Vehicle locks are only discussed in the advanced section. And you should really know how to count the wafers...
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering l

Postby femurat » 5 Sep 2011 16:19

1996 intruder has a pin tumbler steering lock, no wafers. so you could count the pins... I could measure my key and pm you some numbers, but I don't understand how this could be of any help.
why do you need that key? is the bike locked or you can ride to a garage to ask a mechanic to change your lock?
help us to help you, give us some more info!

good luck :)
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Re: Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering l

Postby psehorne » 5 Sep 2011 16:52

femurat wrote:1996 intruder has a pin tumbler steering lock, no wafers. so you could count the pins... I could measure my key and pm you some numbers, but I don't understand how this could be of any help.
why do you need that key? is the bike locked or you can ride to a garage to ask a mechanic to change your lock?
help us to help you, give us some more info!



The bike is not locked. It's not running either; so I can't ride it to garage to ask a mechanic to change the lock.
(besides, I want to do this myself. No fun, having a mechanic change the lock).

Yes, I could count the pins. In fact, I have picked the lock. That was a few months ago and I didn't note the number of pins (I just raked the lock.) It was very easy to pick, but I did not want to lock it in fear that it might not prove so easy the next time, and, of course, I can't resort to picking the lock every time I want to lock/unlock the steering. But as you say I can determine the number of pins by single pin picking. That's not the biggest of my problems though.

If you could measure your key, the numbers would prove helpful. For instance, you could confirm that the first cut is .125 from the shoulder and that subsequent cuts are .095 increments or not. I found those numbers somewhere on the internet, but don't know for sure whether to trust them or not.

You can probably help me determine what the depth increments should be. That would be VERY helpful since I may have to resort to impressioning, and knowing the depth increments would make that chore easier.

And perhaps you could tell me what blank your key is cut from. Again, through some searching on the internet I determined that an NE7 should be the correct blank, and I have purchased a few, but you may have a different alternative number. The blanks I have are steel and I would rather have blanks that are brass. It will make it easier to impression if I have to resort to that.

I just bought an HP 1200 code machine; so I would rather be able to cut by code than by impression. So I am hoping the numbers 0154 can be turned into the key code by someone with access to the information.

I am a hobbyist. So this is just part of that hobby. I have lived with no steering lock for the nine years + that I have owned the bike. I can continue with that, but I need to get the bike running and ready to sell (since I haven't ridden it in a couple of years), and I would like to provide the next owner with a steering lock key. But I would like to use my lockpicking/locksmithing hobby to do that myself.

I know lots of the members of this forum are in the professional; but perhaps those that are hobbyists like myself can sympathize with my wants.

Thanks in advance,
Paul
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Re: Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering l

Postby psehorne » 5 Sep 2011 16:55

Oh! One more thing. It looks to me like changing the lock is no small chore. Looks like major dis-assembly to the steering mechanism to get to the back of the lock to remove it. At $99/hr that could cost a couple hundred.
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Re: Need help to determ key code for a motorcycle steering l

Postby Legion303 » 5 Sep 2011 20:52

Sorry, automotive locks cannot be discussed in the open section. Your best bet is to take the code and the bike's title to a locksmith shop and see if they can determine the code cut from that info.

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