Abus Padlocks With Difficult Bitting

[daniel22747]

I like to pick my Abus padlocks with a Peterson pry bar and a short hook. I like the way the mushrooms pins go pop pop pop!

However Abus padlocks that have a high low high low... bitting can often be a real chore to pick with a short hook.

With these guys I find that bottom of the key way tensioning used with a deforest diamond will often get the lock open. I go back and forth in the lock lifting slightly on the pins, allowing for reverse rotation. Eventually the lock pops opens. It can take several minutes.

Also muchroom pins lock are sometimes very vulnerable to standard raking.

[Squelchtone]

Are you sure they are mushroom pins? My experience with ABUS is that they use spool pins.

Mushroom pin


Spool pin


Thanks to Deviant at TOOOL.us for the nice animations

It would be interesting if they use both types in their locks, any chance you have photos of your pins?

Thanks!
Squelchtone

[cj101]

I never saw a mushroom pin in any abus lock till now. They use spool pins. However, newer abus locks use lot of different pins, including serated pins, spool pins, spool pin with bevel to counter bump keys, as well as serrated key pins and spooled key pins.

The old version with 4 spools and one solid single notched pin could be indeed raked easily to the state, where all pins shere either set or engaged in the spool section.

[daniel22747]

The website I got then from said they have 5 mushroom pins in them. They are from the 55 series. They have very deep false sets and constantly drop pins as you set one. This requires you to reset some of the pins multiple times before the lock will open.

[cj101]

The german page listens the page as "Präzisions-Stift-Zylinder mit Pilzkopfstiften". Although this translates indeed as mushroom pins, They used only spools and the newer pins. I did not see one before in any of them before (in my own bunch of abus locks and the dismantled ones in the various lock wikis on the web).
So this is a bit of surprise to me.
However, a spool acts pretty the same way as a mushroom pin, except of too less clearing between pin diameter and bore diameter, in which case, a spool acts only slightly compared to a mushroom.

There are however a lot of types of pins used by Abus. In the evening, I will take a photo of the abus pins, I have in the evening and you can tell me perhaps, whether you think, there might be serrated pins in as well. This would be an inidcator of the new class of abus pins.

[nite0wl]

In my rekeyable or serviceable Abus cylinders I have only seen standard and spool pins. I do have a number of solid body Abus locks that cannot be gutted non-destructively but they have always felt the same as the spool pins in the rekeyable cylinders.
While it is likely that these are actually spool pins, it is possible this may be a regional variation in the parts they supply/use or indeed be a recent change.

[MrTomorrow]

Abus 55/50 It's a brand new one, just received. I'm using a top of the keyway flat wrench and a variety of lifters and small diamonds. I find at least three of the pins to be quite scratchy as if the sides were all rusty. Under tension I can feel several pins with intermittent resistance. I give them a little push and move on. I keep going up and down. Lots of false sets here. I've tried a bogata as well. This ain't no 10 second you tube video. The key is quite even. There are certainly a variety of security pins in here. I'm crossing spools for sure. Total defeat at this point. The package rates it a 5 out of 10. Looking forward to photos.