Key Retaining, Non Key Retaining???

[C158]

Hello,

What would you prefer and why on a lock box that requires two locks? In one hand non is great as you do not need two keys. On the other hand key retaining could be nice making two keys nesseceary even if Keyed alike to open the box. Only downside is you have to have two keys on you in person. Or one hidden near the box somewhere and one on your Keychain.


Thoughts?

[billdeserthills]

I like to use a key retaining system where employees are concerned, especially hourly paid employees who are
succeptible to making mistakes with the boss's money. As an example if an expensive padlock could be lost or stolen
I am more apt to sell a key retaining one, that will remind an employee to make sure that padlock is correctly locked
back onto whatever is supposed to be secured.

Same goes with a money lockup, if it is key retaining, it will be much harder for an employee to walk away,
without re-securing the door on the lockbox first

Another thing to consider, is many key-retaining set ups are done using a safe deposit lock, these locks are not
known for their strength

[C158]

Thank you for the reply

Your anologies make perfect sense.

To paint the picture a bit more I will be storing personal odds and ends in the box of some value. It will be in a garage or closet space. Personal use only.

Locks in consideration are the Abloy PL340 (key retained) or Abus 83/55 shrouded(I need the 1" clearance it offers unlike the unshrowded version.)

AND this is last tid bit is just personal....I like how Abloy is still made in their homeland.

[Squelchtone]

Could we keep your line of questions to the first post you made asking about locks for a Jobox style construction site tool storage container?


It will help others in the future find all the answers in 1 cohesive thread.

Thanks
Squelchtone

[C158]

Makes sense no prob

[ARF-GEF]

I think Billdeserthill highlighted the most important thing.

Key retaining: harder to forget it's open, keeps the lock and key at one place. Makes you lock it when you leave effetively. Used in safe locks, cars, prison doors etc. Much more obvious to see it if's locked or not (key in: probably open, keyless with door closed: locked)

Non key retaning: comfy, you don't need to keep the keys in lock. Useful if you need the same key in other places as well. Some padlocks allow you to lock it without keys.

Just think of it: key retinign: ,whenever it's open it has to have a key inside.

[ltdbjd]

I'm not sure I understand the question. If you have two key retaining padlocks that are keyed alike, why would you need two keys? Couldn't you take one padlock off, lock it, remove the key, and then unlock the other padlock?

If I want to keep a padlock from growing legs and walking off, I'll use a padlock chain. If I want to make sure something gets resecured, I'll use a key retaining function.

[Raymond]

Yes, if you have some safe place to lock it back on to. This is the other reason I recommend key-retaining padlocks for certain applications. The lock has to be locked to get the key out. This means that if it is locked to a chain, gate, or secure place, no one can steal the lock, make a key for it, and return it without anyone noticing it was gone.

[DangerDane]

I personally hate key retaining since most of my keys are in one key ring or another. I was looking for secure cam locks for truck storage boxes, the kind beneath the bed and more or less all the cam-locks I would find that was classed as secure in my eyes were key-retaining and wasn't available without