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by C158 » 3 Jun 2016 16:44
So with the upcoming Bilock exclusive it appears they have made it more pick resistant? Someone who has picked BiLock, with watching this video do you think it will now be drastically harder for you to pick? I have read that Bilock while being a great lock is pick-able where as Protec2 is not.....yet, so am wondering if the "exclusive" will now be par with Protec2 and MCS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V9CYHp7U1g
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by GWiens2001 » 3 Jun 2016 17:26
Isn't the BiLock Exclusive just restricted keyways? Thought I saw that when looming into the BiLock Exclusive
The BiLock is a very well made lock, as are the Protec and the MCS locks. Pickability - BiLock is pickable by some, but it is still much harder than a Schlage. There are weaknesses and strengths to each of the systems you mentioned, though the weaknesses would need to be discussed in the advanced forums.
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by bluelight » 3 Jun 2016 19:38
It looks like they've just added two sliders on either side, of the keyway, and they should act similarly to the sliders on a medeco m3. From the video, it doesn't really look like it adds any great measure of security. Anyone who can pick a bilock NG should easily be able to overcome these asites well. I want to say that it's for patent control, like the medeco m3, but I'm not sure.
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by ARF-GEF » 5 Jun 2016 9:06
From the picking standpoint: I know of noone who can pick a protec2, and I know 1-2 people who picked a bilock ( after much practice and in "laboratory" conditions.) It's hard to say which lock is better. There are many aspects to that. (Physical resistance, price, key blank control etc). In short there is no perfect lock. MCS chiefly, and protec 2 are as close to unpickable as you can get in today's market.
Will they be picked on your door? I'd safely say no, neither of the locks mentioned above will be picked by a burglar. I think they are all high quality high security locks. In all likelihood any of those will satisfy any normal requirements a private person or regular buiness might have. So in these sense they are equal.
If you get into minor details or specific weaknesses are one better than the other? Surely, they are not the same system even. But that also leads to the restricted area. Also at this level it's a question which one do you fancy.
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by peterwn » 6 Jul 2016 5:38
bluelight wrote:It looks like they've just added two sliders on either side, of the keyway, and they should act similarly to the sliders on a medeco m3. From the video, it doesn't really look like it adds any great measure of security. Anyone who can pick a bilock NG should easily be able to overcome these asites well. I want to say that it's for patent control, like the medeco m3, but I'm not sure.
Patents last 17-20 years so a new gimmick is needed each few decades. I am not completely up with patent law, but it seems that if Medeco, Bilock, etc come up with a new gimmick that gets past the patent examiners each few decades, it may 'evergreen' the concept so key blanks and duplication methods for older versions remain protected. If not 'evergreened', franchise locksmiths can sell customers a new system each 20 years or so on the basis that the old system is potentially compromised by expiry of patent protection.
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