Unlocking a lock without a key

[DangerDane]

I have just acquired 2 Ruko padlocks without a key and I don't have the skills nor the tools to pick them and then figure out the proper biting for a key that will work. Nor do I have the skills to pick it and then rekey it to match one of my existing keys. My local locksmith told me to basically forget all about it since it would cost me more than 2 new locks to get them to pick it and then replace the cylinder with another.

The guy that I bought them from used, said he was quoted around 20 US for getting the locks picked and rekeyed so I am sitting here somewhat confused why one locksmith will do it for 20 and another refuses claiming it will cost more than 2 new locks. But are there any users on here from Denmark that might be able to help me getting them opened and the cylinders removed so that I can get them replaced with another, either for free or for some money?

[Squelchtone]

Ruko makes a bunch of different models, how easy or difficult of a keyway, how many pins, etc, all determines the skill and times needed to pick them.

Could you post photos of the locks and their keyways? if you insert a pick, can you do the pin count test and pull pick out slowly and count the clicks to see how many pins are inside?

use our new [image] command to link to your pics, hover over it in the editor menu for instructions.

Thanks
Squelchtone

[DangerDane]

I will be picking them up from my mailbox later today and then hopefully snap some pictures and upload for you all

[DangerDane]

The picture of the keyway and the lock are as follows:

[Tyler J. Thomas]

why one locksmith will do it for 20 and another refuses claiming it will cost more than 2 new locks.

Could be that he either didn't want to do it OR wanted to sell you new padlocks. Just because a locksmith can't do it, per se, doesn't mean it can't be done. It's not uncommon for any tradesman to turn down work no matter how logical/illogical.

[GWiens2001]

Reverse Yale Y1 keyway. Doubt it is that big a deal to pick or impression the lock.

Unfortunately, impressioning is a dying art among locksmiths.

Gordon

[femurat]

If you're willing to pay shipping to Italy and return, I could pick those open for you, remove the cores and send them back to you.
If I have the needed blanks handy I could also impression a key for you. PM me if interested.

Cheers

[Tyler J. Thomas]

Unfortunately, impressioning is a dying art among locksmiths.

Well I would hope a locksmith would know to pick, remove, and rekey instead of spending time/material on impressioning this particular padlock. Pick, remove, fit/cut a key would be the alternative. From a business standpoint, impressioning is nearly always the last resort.

[blue60]

Unfortunately, impressioning is a dying art among locksmiths.

Well I would hope a locksmith would know to pick, remove, and rekey instead of spending time/material on impressioning this particular padlock. Pick, remove, fit/cut a key would be the alternative. From a business standpoint, impressioning is nearly always the last resort.

why is that? I can impression a common lock (kw1) quicker then it would take me to pick open, take apart, and repin a lock.
I am only a inhouse locksmith but my boss is happy when I can make a new key vs re-keying a lock unless there is a reason to re-key.

[Tyler J. Thomas]

Unfortunately, impressioning is a dying art among locksmiths.

Well I would hope a locksmith would know to pick, remove, and rekey instead of spending time/material on impressioning this particular padlock. Pick, remove, fit/cut a key would be the alternative. From a business standpoint, impressioning is nearly always the last resort.

why is that? I can impression a common lock (kw1) quicker then it would take me to pick open, take apart, and repin a lock.
I am only a inhouse locksmith but my boss is happy when I can make a new key vs re-keying a lock unless there is a reason to re-key.

Duplicates being moot, a key blank costs more than 5 pins and a shot of lube. But if you say you're faster at impressioning, continue on I guess.

[jimu57]

Looks like it has an ASSA cylinder with a UL keyway. I am rekeying a Ruko 3 for a friend in Hong Kong. It's easy because it has no pins in it. it does have a sidebar. I am getting 2 keys cut with sidebars. I can repin most ASSA's. This one may have a 7 pin cylinder that is like the ASSA 600 series. I have been successful in opening non sidebar ASSA'S by bumping. Send me a PM if you want to talk about it.

[jimu57]

Nope. Just double checked. It is a RU-1 key profile. Most likely is only 5 pins. I have around a dozen Ruko oval cylinders. Had to shim them open. I also have close to 100 Ruko cut keys. The only thing I cannot find is the pinning specs on Ruko. The cylinder in this padlock may have a plug that has a sleeve around it with elongated holes at the pin chambers. Causes the security pins catch when trying to pick. It's possible to pick open but not easy. I have made some bump keys for ASSA and Ruko. Have had success with both but not on a regular basis.

[jimu57]

Also, Norseman Lock Picker on youtube did a video of spools gutting this Ruko 2 padlock.

[DangerDane]

I have a speculation that the locks in these locks are the Ruko Series 500 or 600 with the rounded heads, so I will need to find a bump key or such for them >.<

[DangerDane]

I can confirm they are series 500 Ruko locks in open profile as a had a regular series 500 key that fits both locks. So I guess I have to either dig up a bump key for the 500 somewhere or pay 40 dollars to have it picked and a key made.