okay i feel extremely dumb for asking this question.....

by **serene** » 5 Nov 2003 20:12

This is your typical lock that you would find on a shed door or an old garage etc. Now i can pick pin-tumblers fine and simular locks and have learnt lots about them. Although this is the case i am tottally ignorant to this type of lock and have next to no knowledge on them.

i cant actually find a picture of the lock but i have found a key that would be used for them.

it is the long gold key or the long silver key. what are the locks called? how do they work? how can one pic them?

thanks for your time guys/ladies
craig

Oh and hello everyone

im new here

by **bitj** » 5 Nov 2003 23:11

you mean a skeleton key? used on like old houses and likes those ones in the movies where they are used to open like jail cells?

by **Picker_Level-0** » 6 Nov 2003 4:25

hi m8, i think you mean lever tumbler locks!!! Are you from the uk by any chance, cuz if you are then i bet it is lever locks and all the information i have found out are from people in here so use the search button at the top and search " lever ",. There isnt much info about them, apparently there is some info in Eddie the Wires book, secrtes of lock picking, i just got it delivered this moarning but i aint got time to read it but ill post on tonight about what it sais!!!!
g2g
Chris

U may also be talking about warded locks, now im a n00b as well so aint got a lot of info on them just cuz i cant find one to practice on but i heard / and they look like they are really easy to pick, there minimum security and used on quite old locks.

by **Chubby** » 6 Nov 2003 15:23

Well I'm no expert but that gold key looks like a CHUBB mortice key, in the States their levers in the UK mortice, so try searching under that as well... :wink:

by **Picker_Level-0** » 6 Nov 2003 16:40

Hey Chubby, can you explain the difference in what you have just said, whats a uk mortice and a state lever whats the difference?!

by **Varjeal** » 6 Nov 2003 17:35

I think what Chubby means is that they might be for either a lever lock or a warded lock.

If it's a lever lock, especially in the UK, you may have a tough time without proper tools for this one. Lever locks are opened when individual plates with slots cut into them to accept the bolt, must be lined up for the bolt or latch to be retracted. In the UK they're common on residential doors, in the America's not so much, but are popular for Safety deposit boxes.

If it's a warded lock, then it's a piece of cake. Warded locks have fixed plates which must be bypassed in order to operate a single plate to retract the latch or bolt. These are found on stuff that's generally pretty old, or on stuff that doesn't have a lot of value except for possible "antique visual appeal".

Hope that helps.

by **Chubby** » 6 Nov 2003 18:48

Well I thought that when lever locks are being spoken about by a LP101 members from The United States of America I assumed they were refering to the Lever mortice locks refered to by their British counterparts in the United Kingdom, both are locks in which a bolt is moved by a key springs and levers. As posts have both been written about Mortice & lever locks I was suggesting that both be searched under their specific names so not as to miss any information on these locks purely because there is a difference in terminology. As for warded locks don't ask me to even go there........!

by **illusion** » 4 Sep 2005 7:28

lever locks r easy 2 pick, but u will need a piece of spring steel to make a tesion wrench, and the pick itself. If u r in the UK you can find the tools @ www.locksmith-tools.co.uk...

having said th@ it would be like saying Yale pin-tumblers are easy, and then getting given a Medeco - mostly with average lever locks u will find it easy, but there exist 12 lever locks!

If someone can tell me how to post pics i'll show a pic of a practice lock i made... if not there is a guide 2 making 1here: viewtopic.php?p=97175#97175

by **digital_blue** » 4 Sep 2005 8:44

I'm sure all the folks of lp101 class of 2003 will be glad to know all that.

db

by **Chrispy** » 4 Sep 2005 9:19

What's with all the thread resurrection illusion?

I don't think half these members are even here anymore. :wink:

by **Shrub** » 4 Sep 2005 11:27

Hey if he/she is learning leave them to it, i dont mind reading them again and bringing such things back to the top of the pile helps other newbies out,

To clarify this thread though for any other newbies,

A mortice is a slot cut in to a piece of material that doesnt go all the way through, a mortice lock is a lock that is set into a door jar,

Some warded locks still use levers and can be still called a lever lock,

The general thing on site is that if a lock is called a mortice lock it is a lock that is on the edge of the door (a cylinder lock fits on the face of the door)

A lever lock is a lock that has levers that need to be lifted before the bolt can be drawn back,

A warded lock is a lock that has sticky out bits (wards) in the keyhole so that only a particular key can tun in it,

A warded lock is easy to open with menial tools and a lever lock requires some skill level, a British Standard lever lock is the daddy of them all.

Now i know this isnt 100% correct but ive done it so it would explain the basics to anyone new.

by **illusion** » 4 Sep 2005 12:32

Chrispy wrote:What's with all the thread resurrection illusion? I don't think half these members are even here anymore.

O right i'll admit it .... I'm new 2 this site, and didn't know how to check the dates :oops:

Sorry ... unless anyone is interested in seing the inside of a lever lock i'll just go and stad in the corner.. :oops:

by **digital_blue** » 4 Sep 2005 12:44

illusion wrote:
Chrispy wrote:What's with all the thread resurrection illusion? I don't think half these members are even here anymore.

O right i'll admit it .... I'm new 2 this site, and didn't know how to check the dates

Sorry ... unless anyone is interested in seing the inside of a lever lock i'll just go and stad in the corner..

Naw, Illusion. Don't take it to heart. As I said in another thread, it is good to see a newbie that actually reads the old threads. You'll learn a lot from them. I was just havin' a go at ya because you were making comments to people that haven't been here in an awfully long time.

db

by **Keyring** » 4 Sep 2005 12:48

illusion: Just a personal observation. I think you probably have a lot to offer the site in the long run as you seem to be technically involved. I have also just built a see-through BS lock, so I know where you're coming from. I would (personally) appreciate it if you could drop the SMS language as I have a lot of difficulty reading it, and it must be taking just as long to code it up, as to use english. Others may have a different feeling about this, so I won't say any more; I'm not that old a hand either (on this site).

As to the resurrection issue, I think that you are reading through all the old posts, which is a really good thing, and then possibly forgetting to look at the date at the top. Not all of these old posts originally got answered in a useful way; maybe an answer now is still useful for the record, just don't expect the original posters to still be watching. I would guess that a lot of posters will not look again after say 3 days, if they don't get a good answer.

Anyway, welcome.

by **illusion** » 4 Sep 2005 13:48

Keyring wrote:illusion: Just a personal observation. I think you probably have a lot to offer the site in the long run as you seem to be technically involved. I have also just built a see-through BS lock, so I know where you're coming from. I would (personally) appreciate it if you could drop the SMS language as I have a lot of difficulty reading it, and it must be taking just as long to code it up, as to use english. Others may have a different feeling about this, so I won't say any more; I'm not that old a hand either (on this site).

As to the resurrection issue, I think that you are reading through all the old posts, which is a really good thing, and then possibly forgetting to look at the date at the top. Not all of these old posts originally got answered in a useful way; maybe an answer now is still useful for the record, just don't expect the original posters to still be watching. I would guess that a lot of posters will not look again after say 3 days, if they don't get a good answer.

Anyway, welcome.

I'll tell you what... I'll write with as gramaticaly correct english as i can muster from now on... it's all MSN messenger's fault for the SMS talk!

i wasn't really posting at anyone in particular, and to be honest ressurecting forums seems to annoy most people unless there is something dramatic to say... and there really wasn't :lol:

P.S: your lock sounds gd, i wonder if it is similar 2 mine?

thanx for understanding

okay i feel extremely dumb for asking this question.....

okay i feel extremely dumb for asking this question.....

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