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A Paticular Schlage Lock

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A Paticular Schlage Lock

Postby root » 13 Nov 2003 17:42

I am having problems picking a paticular Schlage lock, it's called Everest (not the Everest Primus) I have spent many hours fiddling with it and I can't manage to pick the thing. Below is a link with the lock diagram.

http://www.schlage.com/products/ecyl.htm

I'm fairly sure this is the lock, I am thinking there is a special pin that is manipulated by an undercut groove in the side of the key but I am not sure. Has anyone else ever encountered this lock? If so, what type of pick did you use and is a special pick required?

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Postby Varjeal » 13 Nov 2003 20:46

That indeed is a Schlage Everest lock cylinder. If this is your first lock, or you don't think you're an experienced lock picker, you'd best find something else to try.

The Schlage Everest cylinder has a sing pin that is manipulated by an undercut groove on the side of the key. In order to pick it you'll need to reach wayyyy back in the cylinder, then lift the pin to its own shearline. A small diamond or a very small hook should do the job.

Where did you find such a beast, if I may ask?
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Postby root » 13 Nov 2003 21:08

I'm not very experienced so I should find another lock... It exists at my University, the dormotories in paticular. I'd say there are about 700 of them them all over the place, Where could I find a diamond pick that small?
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Postby Varjeal » 14 Nov 2003 0:38

Both Rytan and HPC make picks that may suit your needs, or perhaps the Euro one's from Southord, but I can't personally vouch for those.
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Postby Zelgadis » 14 Nov 2003 7:58

Other way to lift that pin is cutting a key and use it as tension tool at the same time. You would kill 2 birds of 1 shot.
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Postby Varjeal » 14 Nov 2003 11:20

Unless you are a licensed locksmith or wholesaler, you shouldn't have access to blanks and no reputable locksmith should sell you them either, so I don't think that's feasible, but it would definitely work if done correctly.
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RE: filing a key

Postby root » 14 Nov 2003 21:32

About getting a key and filing it down, as I mentioned these locks are in my dormotories, I can easily get a key and file it down, would that actually work though?
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Postby yoyoceramic » 27 Dec 2003 14:30

All of the above posts are correct. Incase you are curious however, check out this nifty webpage about the workings of the Everest lock.


http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/everest/

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Postby jpc1618 » 19 Feb 2008 14:34

Also, Peterson makes a nifty tool that kills two birds with one stone - a special two-finger tension wrench that has one long finger designed to reach into the back of the cylinder and lift the check pin.
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Re: RE: filing a key

Postby Squelchtone » 19 Feb 2008 15:19

root wrote:About getting a key and filing it down, as I mentioned these locks are in my dormotories, I can easily get a key and file it down, would that actually work though?



not sure why no one has said this to you already, but the lock is clearly not your property to be picking, even if it is on your dorm room. We get folks at least once a month asking how to pick their dorm room lock, and they get all bent out of shape saying well, its my room, I'll pick it if I want to, but I have to urge you not to pick those locks. If you should break the lock by accident, campus facilities and or campus police might want you to visit their offices and sit down for a friendly chat. After that the dean might have a friendly chat about your expulsion.

We do not break into places here, nor do we teach people how to do it. If you want to pick for fun, buy some locks at home depot or some hardware store and pick those in the comfort of your dorm room, but don't pick locks that are mounted in doors and in daily use. Bad things are bound to happen.

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Postby Squelchtone » 19 Feb 2008 15:22

oh .. jpc1618

stop necromancing old threads..


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