Schlage school lock.

[Jostility808]

Hey. I'm new to this forum and ive only been lockpicking for about a week. so far ive managed to pick an easy 5 pin "flatland" pin tumbler lock. anyways me and my friends hang out at school next to this locked up bathroom, which ive seen get opened with a key, theres really nothing there and I only want to get it open to see if I can. The thing is that I'm not at all familiar with this lock, besides the fact that I know its a pin lock. When i put in the tensor(my fork) the plug doesnt rotate in either direction no matter how hard i turn it, yet the outer covering (the really rusted part) does turn somewhat. It could be a bit rusty but that doesnt really explain why the cover turns and the plug doesn't. I appreciate any help I can get.

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[Keyring]

The thing is that however good your intentions are, it is a very bad idea to pick or attempt to pick a lock which you don't own, or without permission of the owner. Or to pick any lock which is in active use unless you are very skilled and confident. Firstly it is just too easy to damage the lock and prevent it working. Secondly it could lead to a lot of trouble for you if you are caught.

Train on spare locks which you own. Old rusty locks do indeed have their own problems, and are probably not good ones to start on anyway. By the way, welcome to the forum!

[keysman]

MMM....
You really shouldn't be picking locks that you don't own and/ or have permission to pick.

The lock in the picture is a Schlage 500 series deadbolt... a real BEAST of a deadbolt; they are no longer manufactured, but have some very strong features you won't find on MANY so called HIGH Security Deadbolts.

The Cover (rusty) that is moving when you try to pick it, is hardened steel, designed to resist drilling of the cylinder, the lock itself is hardened steel to prevent drilling of the mounting screws (4) or Wrenching of the cylinder.
Inside of the lock the cylinder is attached to the lock to prevent pounding the cylinder in ward .The bolt should have a shroud (not always installed) to prevent Ice pick attacks.
This lock is defiantly over kill for a janitor’s closet and probably has something behind it that requires a higher level of security than a standard deadbolt affords.

[sublime progie]

Comming from somebodythat, unfortunatly, authorities came to in highschool when something bad happened, I would leave this lock alone. Especially if people know that you pick locks.

What will happen is, not only will the school probably take action by punishing you themselves, the would also have the right to take legal action. Also, if that happened, they would take your picks. (NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) That is the minor part in my opinion. The worst is that no matter what happens people will turn to the lockpicking heathan that broke into the poohouse.

I know that locks can be tempting, especially if it is to show someone off, or amaze someone at how insecure their valkuables relly are, but it is a temptation that must be resisted if you want to be respected as a hobbiest instead of a criminal, (even if a hobbiest is still frowned upon)

by the way, welcome to the hobby even though i am a few weeks late

[Chrispy]

anyways me and my friends hang out at school next to this locked up bathroom, which ive seen get opened with a key, theres really nothing there and I only want to get it open to see if I can.

The question you have to ask yourself is, if you were on your knees in front of this door with a tension wrench and pick in the lock trying to open it, and the principal/teacher turned the corner, would you be comfortable enough to stay where you are and give a friendly hello? Or would you turn red and expect a grilling or even suspension? For a lock? Not worth it man.

[Jostility808]

Well normally you guys would be right about getting caught but this bathroom is in a place that I'm confident I wouldn't get caught, and I wasn't trying to pick it to show off...it's more about curiosity than anything else, and to learn the skill. That being said you guys are even more right about everything else, and Im not stupid anyway. Thanks to keysman for explaining the type of lock and why there is no chance in hell that I could pick it at this skill level. I really appreciate the help and look forward to hanging out here some more.

[treboR]

If you do not own it, you should not pick it.
It does not matter if you get caught.
If you are not issued a key, and you manipulate that lock open without the owners permission, you are commiting a crime.

You can buy locks for less than $5.00 at walmart to practice on.

[digital_blue]

Hey Jostility. I'm pretty sure from reading your posts that you probably didn't have any bad intentions. That being said, you've probably come to the conclusion that ppl around here take the ethics of lockpicking pretty seriously. As Robert said, it isn't about whether or not you'd get caught. It's just wrong to pick locks you don't own. This is a great hobby, but it unfortunately sometimes gets spoiled a bit by people who misuse the skills.

But I think you're on the right track now. Have a good read through the site. You'll be surprised to see just how much you learn here. There's a ton of great info. Have fun with it. Practice lots. And keep your grubby little hands off locks you don't own.

Happy picking!

db

[Minion]

Also, picking locks to "impress your friends" isn't a great idea, because it usually ends in failure if you're not familiar with the lock.

[vector40]

Impression my friends? Hell, I can't even impression a Schlage yet.

I can pick my friends, though.

[digital_blue]

I can pick my friends, though.

Yeah, me too. But wouldn't you know it I always end up picking them the wrong way... Now lets stop this analagy before someone makes a wisecrack about bumping...

db