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Beginner lock?

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Beginner lock?

Postby WilDKluX » 11 Oct 2005 5:37

I am new to lockpicking, and wonder if the Abus 65/30 padlock is a good lock to start with? dident find any information on the lock on these pages..
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Postby Chrispy » 11 Oct 2005 6:20

No. It's big brothers all have security pins, so I won't be surprised to find that he's the same. Try a cheapo deadbolt at your local cheap shop / hardware store. There's no location in your profile, so I can't give you the best option. Fill out your profile. :)
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Postby Keyring » 11 Oct 2005 7:02

Abus Padlocks (based on my collection)

65/50 has 5 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/40 has 5 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/35 has 4 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/30 has 4 pins (plain front pin and spools for the others)
65/20 has 3 pins (no security pins)

By the way I've noticed that this is very common, having the FRONT pin as a normal one. Obviously at least one pin needs to be normal, to stop the keyway rotating when there's no key in, and to make putting the key in trouble-free. But why does it always seem to be the front pin? Seems to me as though the back one would be a better choice.
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Postby WilDKluX » 12 Oct 2005 9:51

I have opened the lock (abus 65/30) about 20 times the last days, but i dont understand why it sometimes work and sometimes dont. Probably the spool pins.. Btw, i have ordered my first pickset today. I really look forwards to getting it. any tips on the spool pins? maybe i need something else than a bobby pin..
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Postby Chrispy » 13 Oct 2005 3:35

Keyring wrote:But why does it always seem to be the front pin? Seems to me as though the back one would be a better choice.


Keyring wrote:Obviously at least one pin needs to be normal... to make putting the key in trouble-free.

That's why. Trouble free key entry into the keyway.
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Postby Keyring » 13 Oct 2005 6:54

But putting the normal pin at the back would work even better - is my point. As it would stay in position until the key was nearly all the way in.
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Postby Chrispy » 13 Oct 2005 7:21

But the first pin (in a six pin lock) is actioned 5 times more than the last pin, and if there was a spool or mushroom in the first chamber, depending on the cuts of the key, it would (could) get stuck at the shear line on any one of the five actions when the key is inserted. Kinda hard to explain, but you get the idea. :wink:
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