Murray Locks three point five lever lock

[workstation]

A while ago, maybe in 2001, Screwfix Direct and Ironmongery Direct were adverising a three point lock with a five lever mechanism from a company called Murray Locks.

Basically, I'd like to get one to have a look at it, but the company doesn't seem to exist any more. I tried looking up their phone number with directory enquiries, but it had been disconnected. Have they gone bust, does any one know? It seems a shame, as it looks like a decent product. Perhaps perversely, I would have liked a europrofile or oval version, although I don't suppose they ever made such things.

Anyway, maybe one of you has one as a collectors item?

I did manage to find the instructions, on the website of the person that did the graphic design for them: http://www.davidgentcreative.com/dg_ftp/design_technical/murray_locks_fitting_instructions.pdf

Thank you.

[toomush2drink]

If you were after one with a euro cylinder you could try and fit a multi point mechanism like you get on upvc doors. If you avoided the hook type ones and went for say roller bolts you would have about the same sort of work with your router.
Personally i think you would be better off with a decent rim latch, mortice lock,hinge bolts and a london bar as its a wooden door. The reason i say this is that by changing that lock to a euro you are making it easier to get into as mortice locks are generally harder to overcome.
That particular lock is not bs rated so therefore wouldnt satisfy the insurance company, it appears to be a era viscount but i may be wrong.The reason i know the lock itself is not bs rated is the fact it doesnt have a hardplate to prevent drilling, this would cover the slot showing the levers making it harder to open.
If you are after some advice on what to fit and why let us know and i will we shall help you out.

[Al]

I remember these, never really took off. Yes, quite correct Toomush based around the lock sold as ERA 202.
Roller bolts on a wooden door? That's what you need to avoid! There's no gap for them. Choose shoot bolts of some kind if you must.

Decent Rim and Mortice combo with London bar etc far better as you suggest.

[workstation]

Thanks, guys!

It's interesting that is isn't a BS lock, as I seem to remember it being sold as one, but with extra locking bolts added. Probably a false claim, then?

The reason I was interested in a euro or oval version is that I already have a BS 5 lever sashlock on the door, and wanted to do a keyed-alike thing with the conservatory, garage etc. I wouldn't pin the cylinders myself; I've tried, and the bits go everywhere!

I know a euro cylinder's really a step down from a good lever lock, particularly as the cylinders I can afford are very pickable, drillable, bumpable etc, but as it's a detatched bungalow, the security is only as good as the weakest point, which at the moment is fairly weak - a five pin brass euro.

Incidentally, the door's actually one of those steel-faced wooden entry doors, in a timber frame. Are they any good, do you know? It's my in-laws' house, so I won't be offended if not!

I know I can change the sashlock for a euro one based on a BS lock, but I just liked the idea of it being multi-point. I particularly liked the fact that with the Murray Locks one that you didn't have to lift the handle.

Thanks for your first suggestion, toomush (good name, also!), but I don't think a pvc door lock handle would look right in situ, and anyway, those locks have other "features" that irritate me/us.

[toomush2drink]

I had a call to customer who had a steel faced door fitted with a euro sash lock. He had spent over an hour trying to kick it open so i would say they are quite good. The cylinder picked easy enough though but the door showed now signs of damage just the odd footprint mark lol.
To secure things up think about the frame and adding a london bar, its a cheap security device for the protection it offers.
http://www.londonbar.net/

Al i was thinking of routing out a gap for the roller bolts but i have to admit i was assuming it had a modern square type frame, didnt think it may have a fancy architrave around it, oh well

[NKT]

Very funny, that website. Take a visit with javascript turned off... Not the most secure of things, having a javascript shopping cart - it's like leaving that super secured door locked with the window next to it wide open...

Having a good mortice lock on a strong door is useless if you leave the key in the back, when there is a small glass pane right there for the burglar to break and reach through! (Not that the job I did today was anything like that, honest!)

[Shrub]

Ive got one of those Murray lock kits on an internal door, a latch inside moves rods up and down which in turn move a brass plunger into the frame, been faultless since fitted,

Its a securefast based lock, 9 cuts and 7G keyway, i cant remember if its BS or not, i think the lock was changed nearer the end of supply to the one i have,

Im sure it decodes like a securefast but havent got round to trying it yet.