Where do I go from here?

[X Aggressive]

I've been picking for several months now, and can open most any standard blue and silver masterlock. I have trouble with the bronze weather resistant masters, they have rounded pins, I believe. I can open ACE pin tumbler locks (the ones with the one spool pin) but again, when they do open - it feels like luck.

I've never opened a doorknob lock, but I haven't attempted them so much.

Is there a lock brand a step up from Master? Or where would you go from here if you were me?

[jabial]

Do you rake or pick? When you are picking, do you know at least approximatively which pins are set and which are not?

[CitySpider]

If you still have trouble with the weather resistant Masters, do those. Also I'd get yourself a Kwikset. It won't be very hard, but I've always considered it a baby step up from a master.

[X Aggressive]

I use the half hook always. No raking - just picking.

About how much does a kwick set cost?

No matter how hard I try, I just can't get the weather resistant bronze masters consistently. Maybe once every 3-5 minutes, but I have some gold and blue standard masterlocks down in about 5-10 seconds... is that even possible with the bronze masters?

Thanks for all the advice and any to come.

[CitySpider]

Kwikset, spelled like that. And I believe, around me, you can get a deadbolt for less than $10 or $15. I've never bought one new, only looked, so I might be wrong.

And yes, it's certainly possible with the bronze masters. I actually find them a little easier. Sounds like you're trying too hard. Just relax, you'll get it.

[X Aggressive]

Alright, I'll move onto to the kwikset deadbolt.

Are you sure we're talking about the same locks? I know there are the bronze regular ones, but I'm talking about the really slim bronze ones.. as shown here:

http://masterlock.com/cgi-bin/style_sea ... le_id=C322

Solid Bronze!

Thanks for all the advice.

[almightyares]

OMG! Dont even get me started on those master bronze padlocks. I still cannot get the 140 open.

[CitySpider]

Yup. Those're the locks I was thinking of.

[RedMcSwede]

another idea is to look at the formation of the key cuts through the package...if you want a little more of a challenge make sure you get something that goes very high to very low and so forth...you can also do this by repinning the kwickset if you buy it with a fairly simple pin kit...enjoy

[Mad Mick]

Are you sure we're talking about the same locks? I know there are the bronze regular ones, but I'm talking about the really slim bronze ones.. as shown here:

http://masterlock.com/cgi-bin/style_sea ... le_id=C322

The padlocks you are refering to in the link are actually solid brass ones, and have spool pins in the top of the stack. May I suggest that you hold off from attempting these yet.

If you want something a bit trickier, you could reconfigure your layered Master's high low, as Red suggested.

Check out:

viewtopic.php?t=1890

for more info. There is also a tutorial on dismantling the Brass Master padlocks.

HTH.

[Dosk3n]

to be honest i have never tried the brass MASTER padlocks, don't know why thought, but in the last couple of weeks theres been a few people having a lot of difficulty with them, so im going to go buy one to day when i buy a new abus.