Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.
by Jason13 » 10 Apr 2006 14:45
Ok i have to be fast about this cause im on $1
I got the brinks Circle padlock and i think its a 4 pin but it has R70 on it under keyhole and i got a combo lock but also im going to pick up som masters so cya all and im having a good time.
got a tiny cold looool
This is jason13 reporting from a fast food court in Las Vegas 
Last edited by Jason13 on 10 Apr 2006 16:00, edited 1 time in total.
-
Jason13
-
- Posts: 1475
- Joined: 9 Nov 2005 11:37
- Location: UK
-
by illusion » 10 Apr 2006 14:52
This is illusion reporting from an asylum
Any chance you pick up a case of pneumonia for me whilst you are there? thanks.
Have fun...
-
illusion
-
- Posts: 4567
- Joined: 2 Sep 2005 13:47
by What » 10 Apr 2006 15:27
have fun, Las Vegas is awesome....
-
What
-
- Posts: 948
- Joined: 9 Jan 2006 23:17
- Location: universe, solar system, earth, n. america, USA, california, orange county
by illusion » 10 Apr 2006 15:49
illusion wrote:This is illusion reporting from an asylum  Any chance you could pick up a case of pneumonia for me whilst you are there? thanks.  Have fun...
-
illusion
-
- Posts: 4567
- Joined: 2 Sep 2005 13:47
by Jason13 » 10 Apr 2006 15:56
Any other locks other than Master which have spools?
-
Jason13
-
- Posts: 1475
- Joined: 9 Nov 2005 11:37
- Location: UK
-
by Agent 99 » 10 Apr 2006 16:33
Jason13 wrote:Any other locks other than Master which have spools?
Possibly the Brinks 50mm padlock although info is sketchy at best. See thread.
-
Agent 99
-
- Posts: 25
- Joined: 31 Mar 2006 5:26
by EGOOT247 » 21 Apr 2006 23:33
illusion wrote:This is illusion reporting from an asylum 
Do you see me???
(I'm kidding, but, hey... Seems to fit  ...)
Have fun in Las Vegas, Jason.
, -._,-. BEWARE, I am weird.
\/)"(\/
(_o_) The only way to make something foolproof is to keep it away from fools.
-
EGOOT247
-
- Posts: 189
- Joined: 6 Jan 2006 19:17
- Location: The state of confusion
by SFGOON » 22 Apr 2006 1:52
[quote="illusion"]This is illusion reporting from an asylum
Any chance you pick up a case of pneumonia for me whilst you are there? thanks.
Have fun...[/quote]
You crack me up illusion!
"Reverse the obvious and the truth will present itself." - Carl Jung
-
SFGOON
- Admin Emeritus
-
- Posts: 2160
- Joined: 9 Sep 2004 14:04
- Location: Puget Sound, WA
by Jason13 » 26 Apr 2006 20:10
Still cant pick R70
-
Jason13
-
- Posts: 1475
- Joined: 9 Nov 2005 11:37
- Location: UK
-
by pinsetter » 26 Apr 2006 23:43
I'm betting you're probably applying too much tension. You actually need to vary your tension depending on the situation of the pins. Start out with pretty heavy tension, but still only enough to bind the pins good. Keep this tension steady until you reach a false set. When all spools are false set you'll get a good amount of rotation of the plug. Now, here's the tricky part:
Back off of the tension very slowly until you hear 1 pin in the lock reset, and as soon as you hear that little click apply just a little more tension and hold it steady. Now, start picking all the pins again. You'll be able to squeeze the spool pins through at this point. They'll give your pick a good bit of feedback when they pass through the lip of the cylinder and that'll be followed by a real set very quickly. If you're still using too much tension the spool pin will "snap" into the cylinder and you'll cram everything up into the cylinder pretty hard and will have to let it back down.
-
pinsetter
-
- Posts: 404
- Joined: 3 Apr 2006 21:40
- Location: Bedford, Indiana USA
by Squelchtone » 28 May 2006 22:27
pinsetter wrote:I'm betting you're probably applying too much tension. You actually need to vary your tension depending on the situation of the pins. Start out with pretty heavy tension, but still only enough to bind the pins good. Keep this tension steady until you reach a false set. When all spools are false set you'll get a good amount of rotation of the plug. Now, here's the tricky part: Back off of the tension very slowly until you hear 1 pin in the lock reset, and as soon as you hear that little click apply just a little more tension and hold it steady. Now, start picking all the pins again. You'll be able to squeeze the spool pins through at this point. They'll give your pick a good bit of feedback when they pass through the lip of the cylinder and that'll be followed by a real set very quickly. If you're still using too much tension the spool pin will "snap" into the cylinder and you'll cram everything up into the cylinder pretty hard and will have to let it back down.
Good Evening,
After reading all the recent chatter about the R70, I walked into Walmart and purchased one this afternoon. No luck picking it yet, but I have false set the lock and the plug moves over a bit as everyone else has reported.
The shackle is also very loose at that point, as described by other posters.
At that point I try to back off and I hear one click, then I put a little more tension on, but no amount of single pin picking, varying tension or raking does any good. When I back off all the way and release tension I hear: click, click.
I give up for tonight, my fingers hurt. here's some eye candy of my new challange and it's key, which happens to be an M1 type.
more practice tomorrow.
-Squelchtone

-

Squelchtone
- Site Admin
-
- Posts: 11307
- Joined: 11 May 2006 0:41
- Location: right behind you.
by cracksman » 28 May 2006 23:14
I have the Abus Discus, yours is the knock-off (4 pins instead of 6) and your keyway is much bigger, should be a snap....I'm not at all surprised it isn't though  Brinks is a real pain, I'm not sure where to classify them. If this is anything like their shrouded padlocks you are looking at some very oddly acting spools. Pinsetter seems to have a good handle on them. If you want to be scientific you could map how the pins set and false set by marking them on paper as you work, with 4 pins you should crack it pretty quick. Tension and sequence seem to be key to brinks, it is a great way to learn spools though 
-
cracksman
-
- Posts: 614
- Joined: 8 May 2005 19:37
- Location: Massachusetts, USA
by Squelchtone » 28 May 2006 23:39
cracksman wrote:I have the Abus Discus, yours is the knock-off (4 pins instead of 6) and your keyway is much bigger, should be a snap....I'm not at all surprised it isn't though  Brinks is a real pain, I'm not sure where to classify them. If this is anything like their shrouded padlocks you are looking at some very oddly acting spools. Pinsetter seems to have a good handle on them. If you want to be scientific you could map how the pins set and false set by marking them on paper as you work, with 4 pins you should crack it pretty quick. Tension and sequence seem to be key to brinks, it is a great way to learn spools though 
thanks for the quick replies.
ps. check your inbox.
-

Squelchtone
- Site Admin
-
- Posts: 11307
- Joined: 11 May 2006 0:41
- Location: right behind you.
by Jason13 » 29 May 2006 0:49
need to get a Hook pick made outta wiper blade and my grandas cool copper handles.
At moment i only have a southord diamond and that hook with the bend before hook which is flimsy.
making a hook pick outta wiper blade without a bend is good for this R70.
Also its a bit stronger.
-
Jason13
-
- Posts: 1475
- Joined: 9 Nov 2005 11:37
- Location: UK
-
Return to Locks
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 4 guests
|