Hook Or Diamond

by **Sipe** » 3 Mar 2004 17:24

Do you prefer a hook or diamond to use when opening pin-tumblers?

by **Chucklz** » 3 Mar 2004 18:25

Funny, Lately ive been preferring the hook/diamond combo known as a DeForest. So i guess I cant answer your poll. heh.

by **Quin** » 3 Mar 2004 18:31

I love my half diamond

by **CitySpider** » 3 Mar 2004 18:51

Man, these newfangled poll thingies -- I just accidentally voted for diamond, and I was trying to vote for hook. Sorry, just woke up.

Of course, like Chuck, my favorite pick is a DeForest. I consider it a diamond-tipped hook more than an elevated diamond, which is why I was TRYING to vote for hook.

by **GrEmLiN** » 3 Mar 2004 19:57

LOL. I'll have to look into that pick, is it difficult for a beginner to learn on? I'm not gonna vote yet cause I don't have my picks yet.. soon, I must train myself now for picking locks by excercising paitience.

by **Chucklz** » 3 Mar 2004 20:09

If the pickset you purchased has a "full hook" you can grind it down to such a shape, by using your half hook as a guide.

by **Darek84CJ** » 3 Mar 2004 20:14

Ehh, depends. If the key way is pretty restricted, a hook is to big to use. Then a half diamond comes into play. If you have some room to work, a hook is nice to really feel each pin

by **Chucklz** » 3 Mar 2004 20:38

I've never found a keyway that is too restricted for one of my hooks, and I've picked alot of locks. Some keyways require thinner hooks, or hooks with varying curvature, but I have yet to find a lock that I cant use a hook on, although I have yet to attempt the Best Patented Paracentric Keyway (Say that 10 times fast).

by **n00by** » 3 Mar 2004 20:55

I use to use the diamond the most but now I find I have more success with the half hook.

by **yungning** » 4 Mar 2004 0:48

hook here...

i only use half diamond to do raking

by **Eyes_Only** » 4 Mar 2004 14:23

Hooks works great for me when im picking something with a large forgiving keyway like a kwikset. The diamond works when im trying to rake a standard pin tumbler. I have become fond of the diamond when picking a schlage lock, especially the grade 2 deadbolts with the spool tumblers.

by **salzi684** » 5 Mar 2004 0:25

With the exception of the DeForest and the gem (a hook with a diamond on top of it, but is still more like a hook) I think the half daimond is worthless. Just my 2 cents.

by **salzi684** » 5 Mar 2004 0:26

Sorry meant to say worthless for single pin picking.

by **Dukemurmur** » 14 Mar 2004 13:12

my house has Kwikset locks or whatever they called and i think that they are pretty restricted. I mean like a lot rather. maybe this is because im a noob but i would hate to c anything much tighter then that wow.

by **CitySpider** » 15 Mar 2004 3:31

Dukemurmur wrote:my house has Kwikset locks or whatever they called and i think that they are pretty restricted. I mean like a lot rather. maybe this is because im a noob but i would hate to c anything much tighter then that wow.

Yeah, it's because you're new. Kwikset locks are actually pretty darn easy to maneuver in. If you stick to it, you'll run into a lot of keyways that'll have you ready to chew the lock off the door.

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