Russwin Corbin, good or not ?

[ThE_MasteR]

I want to know if Russwin Corbin is cosidered a secure lock for a small company ?

[What]

my school uses them, they seem secure...

[devildog]

They're a good quality standard pin tumbler. Six pins, good tolerances, usually a pretty open keyway. Definately tougher than a 5 or 6 pin Schlage C, probably along the same lines as a Sargent.

Oh yeah, and they're the lock of choice for the U.S. Postal Service for their exterior doors (they're Russwins, but same people I believe, Corbin-Russwin).

[ThE_MasteR]

Barry Wels did say in his bumping video, that the higher the quality of the lock, the easier it will be to bump. Of course for a normal pin tumbler mechanism.

[devildog]

It really doesn't matter; a lock is either bumpable or it's not, low tolerances don't really make a difference. Ever try bumping a master lock? It's really easy, you just have to whack the key a bit harder, and masterlocks have horrible tolerances.

[mallardmikec]

My dorm in college uses them. I just picked mine. On the first try. I just started learning yesterday. It seemed fairly easy.

[ThE_MasteR]

Locks like these usually open with a couple of pick gun snaps.

[vector40]

They're a good quality standard pin tumbler. Six pins, good tolerances, usually a pretty open keyway. Definately tougher than a 5 or 6 pin Schlage C, probably along the same lines as a Sargent.

I concur on all points.

[ThE_MasteR]

They're a good quality standard pin tumbler. Six pins, good tolerances, usually a pretty open keyway. Definately tougher than a 5 or 6 pin Schlage C, probably along the same lines as a Sargent.

I concur on all points.

Well since your very good at lock picking, this might be an easy one for you. In general, how do you find the lock vector40 ?

[vector40]

I am not very good at lock picking

My experience with C/R is limited to a lot of used cylinders I bought off eBay. It was a big-arse lot, though, so half of the practice locks I have are Corbin or Russwin.

Like dd said, they're basically just good-quality standard cylinders. The keyways vary (they have a LOT of keyways, though I dunno how many are still commonly used -- this is a 100+ year old company), though I've found some pretty annoying ones. Like, they look fairly open, but there's a ward right under the pins that causes headache, or there's just nowhere good to jam the wrench, or whatnot. Here and there.

Some of these also have security pins (one Russwin had ALL mushrooms -- took me forever even to shim that) or ball bearings, though I'm certain those were installed by the previous owner. However, that does illustrate that these are fairly pro commercial locks, and if you run into them the odds are good that they'll be part of a system that's been carefully done.

YMMV.