Kwikset UltraMax

[pinsetter]

I was just in a local Lowes store and seen some Kwikset UltraMax deadbolts.
These are advertised as a Grade 1 lock. The keyway is pretty evil looking, and the box stated they are 6 pin locks. Have any of you had any experience with these locks? They are quite pricey, and look like very good locks. I was just wondering if they're what they are advertised as and provide good security. If anyone has any experience with them please share. I'd hate to pay that much for a practice lock and end up with a plain old cheap kwikset with a fancy finish in a fancy box.

[ThE_MasteR]

Bump it.

[pinsetter]

Well, I just picked a Kwikset Titan that had the same keyway as the UltraMax. It was a pretty easy pick. I would hope that the UltraMax would be a bit tougher.

And with all due respect for bumping locks, I'm not practicing bumping. I want something that is a bit harder to pick than the cheap Master padlocks and the common Grade 3 Kwiksets. My skill level has improved to the point that I need something in the midrange of difficulty. I don't think I'm quite ready to tackle the Medeco's and ASSA's of the world yet, and without having enough time in to get to the advanced topics it's really pointless for me to even mess with those yet. I have an ASSA twin that I have had no luck at all in picking, and that's even with the sidebar and 2 pin stacks removed.

Right now the toughest locks I own are the Best SFIC padlock, and the Brinks Shrouded padlock. The Brinks R70 really gives me no trouble now.

I was thinking of picking up a Master 532 and/or 6230 to add some more challenging stuff to my collection. Can anyone comment on either of those as well?

[keysman]

ANSI grade ( 1, 2 ,3) does not address picking, it addresses number of uses without failure, + some strengtht tests

It is still a Kwickset.. 6 pins but still a kwickset, no matter how you dress it up.
Save your $ and buy an Arrow or a Schlage (with the brass cylinder, NOT pot metal) for a little more challage.

[zeke79]

Schlage everest with 4 or 5 spools? A standard schlage 6 pin with 4-5 spools keyed high low such as 939393. Sargent 6 pins are nice locks to pick in just about any keyway they offer. LA keyway being pretty wide open for pick access.

[vector40]

Bump it pick it spin it shim it
Rake it lube it lock bypass it

(turn it up!)

Uh... sorry guys. Too much Busta Rhymes in my life.

[airbus001]

Well since you already picked it and you seem to be a little tight on money, I would return the lock and buy a Schlage. Schlage locks are $25 dollars for six pin tumbler this should keep you busy for a couple of days.

[n2oah]

Bump it pick it spin it shim it
Rake it lube it lock bypass it

(turn it up!)

Uh... sorry guys. Too much Busta Rhymes in my life.

Me too. It looks like I was the only one here that got that joke.

Anyways, some locks have "Grade 1 Security" on the package, yet they are grade 2 or 3 locks, which is odd.

[CVScam]

It does have 6 pins and 1-2 spools, one of the locksmiths said they only put the spools on front 3 pins. I have played with a total of 4 different ones and I could rake 3 out of 4 of them a lot of the time.

[pinsetter]

Yeah, the Titan that I picked was a 6 pin lock, but had no spools.

I was just wondering about the UltraMax. I am not planning on buying one. I just seen it in the store and it had a pretty hefty price tag on it for a Kwikset and I was just wondering if Kwikset was starting to make some quality products instead of their normal run of the mill junk.

[Omikron]

An interesting thing about certain locks, especially within the Schlage Residential series, is that they advertise Grade 1 "Features". These locks are usually certified at ANSI Grade 2 but have *some* of the Grade 1 features. So be sure to read the package closely when making this determination. That being said, I do know that the Kwikset UltraMax series are actually certified to ANSI Grade 1.