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by LockNewbie21 » 27 May 2006 22:06
This is my first bogata set, they all work good, some are scratchy from testing, let me know what you think, also a big thanks to Ray for a great idea, well done man they really are sumthin to use.   Well there done on to somthing new, later guys, Andy
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by SFGOON » 27 May 2006 22:32
That is something to be proud of. Good job!
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by LockNewbie21 » 27 May 2006 22:36
Thanks buddy, i tried to ge the pics as best i can... but my sister camera is good my skills=shart
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by undeadspacehippie » 27 May 2006 22:50
I'm having the most difficult time making these - congradulations. I just got a couple rat tail files and am going to give it another try this week. I think Ii'll use your great pics as reference.
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by gang_wheell » 28 May 2006 2:04
Very good job
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by LockNewbie21 » 28 May 2006 10:50
undeadspacehippie, they are pretty easy to make if you use ramumdo's documents, i used hand files to finish then up before sanding and polishing... althoguh theyre shiney after you lube up some fine grit emory paper. Of and to make the first cuts (watch the heat) i put an emory wheel into the dremel but stacked thrre on top of each other for the top, and used a single one the bottom, that should get you a good start. good luck bud.
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by undeadspacehippie » 28 May 2006 21:40
I've used his docs, but i don't have access to street sweeper bristles - so I've been using shaped saw blades and wiper blades - the latter mostly. I did finish one last night after posting and it seems to work ok. It gets me in a schlage lock I have been working on more often than i have been able to with a low profile hook. Again I wish I had a cam - My bro has one that is awesome, but I am waiting for him to get back in country. Thanks for the tip about Raimundo's doc.
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by LockNewbie21 » 29 May 2006 2:32
Lol ray busted me, but didnt use street bristels, i don't ahve time to go look for them, i just go the junk yard for 15 mins. with snips and pliers and a small tool box and when i leave i have 2 months worth of materials to work with, mine where made from a simple out dip stick, the exact material you use isn't as important as how you make it, meaning wiper inserts and all are basically the same if you get a right street. If you want a good bogata or any pick the the initial cuts are important if they don't line up perfect, trash it, or cut of the end and start again, the foundation cuts or first ones are crucial if they don't line up its junk, or a funky homebrew, mark with a fine point sharpie intial cuts, if you need an exact use a micro meter if not eyeball it. It take some practice but its eay to pick up.
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by USMAN » 29 May 2006 11:33
very nice picks m8, so beautifully finished, can u tell me what actually a Bogota is?
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by Jason13 » 29 May 2006 12:47
bogota isnt a comercial pick it was made by the all mightey raimondo
There proving to be better than any other rake that ive heard and you can get raimondo to make you some and ship them to you.
he makes good $$$ out of them im sure. 
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by digital_blue » 29 May 2006 16:33
Jason13 wrote:he makes good $$$ out of them im sure. 
I can say firsthand that Ray's not getting rich selling his Bogotas. They are a tremendous amount of work. His level of sanding and polishing is exquisite. They are truly the work of a master craftsman. The time and effort that goes into making these makes them worth so much more than what they cost. I'm sure Ray has gotten pretty good at them, and can probably bang them out with reasonable speed, but none the less, I'm not sure he's making as much per hour on these as someone pumping gas. For anyone that has purchased these tools, you should be grateful that you got the deal of the century. Ray is an anomaly in my mind. Almost no one with that kind of skill would put in that much time to make that price on them. He makes these things with HAND TOOLS, hand sands them, polishes them.
Oh yes, and in case I haven't said so recently... they work "like black freakin' magic" I tell ya.
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by digital_blue » 29 May 2006 16:35
USMAN wrote:very nice picks m8, so beautifully finished, can u tell me what actually a Bogota is?
raimundo created these tools, the Bogota rake and pick, whilst in (get this) Bogota many years ago.
P.S. Locknewbie... very good work. Those look like excellent tools!
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by undeadspacehippie » 29 May 2006 20:37
digital_blue wrote:USMAN wrote:very nice picks m8, so beautifully finished, can u tell me what actually a Bogota is?
raimundo created these tools, the Bogota rake and pick, whilst in (get this) Bogota many years ago. P.S. Locknewbie... very good work. Those look like excellent tools!
THanks for that bit of trivia, I didn't really wonder about it, but I have a friend who always wonders about the names of the tools and things that I work with. I told him I had no idea where the name came from.
I have finished a "sort of bogota" - its not exact, but it works, not like black magic though - its the first to work though. I'm still trying though.
The cuts lining up really do make a huge difference - even if it is just in the appearance of the pick (which leads to structural intengrity of the pick).
Hopefully pics will come soon.
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by illusion » 30 May 2006 5:21
I have had difficulty getting the actual shape of the peaks right when trying to make them. Most of the magic is down to the placement of the peaks and the smoothness I imagine - oh, and possibly the 'essence of moonbeam' added by Raimundo before shipping them out.
Locknewbie: I like the handles of those picks, inventive. 
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by WhiteHat » 30 May 2006 9:04
perhaps it's just my technique I use, but I've always wished the handles were the other way, pointing "up" in the same direction as the top of the rakes...
still, they do work very nicely 
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