Bogata with a twist

[Buzzzy]

Or should I say with a couple of extra twists.
I couldn't come up with anything like this from search, if this has already been posted, pardon me. Instead of twisting two pieces of stock, I went with four, this doubles the amount of black freakin' magic in one package.I will now add a spring, and safety pin, and it's good to go.

These are of course Raimundo's Bogata, and Sabana picks, they are the best rake style pick period, if you don,t have some of these you're missing out. I like building my own tools, but I also have several sets made by the man, and I will get more. These are without a doubt the best value in picks.

The glare makes some of the cuts look a little uneven, I have to work on my digital pic-fu, and build a light box.

I made these with the old school upswept handle, that doubles as a wrench, and they work great!

I wonder if ray could be talked into building these?

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/16920214469.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/16920222640.jpg&s=f5

Buddy

[digital_blue]

Those look like great tools! Great job!

db

[undeadspacehippie]

Ok folks we gotta stop doing this - i've got way too many picks for one case as it is - LOL - now I have to try to make these. Awesome job, nice and curvy.

Thanks for the pics

[Buzzzy]

undeadspacehippie,


Get a large zippper bag, these will hold all your cases.

Hope that helps.

Buddy

[raimundo]

I was in target yesterday and I noticed some little zipper cases for the mp3 players, that would be nice pick cases also there are some hard cases for PDA's that might be ok for someone with a larger collection, but remember, if you carry a lot of picks, its easier to lose one, especially if curious people are looking at them.
Very nice job Buzzy, I have done a three bend, but four is more than even I have tried. You showed us it can be done.

[undeadspacehippie]

undeadspacehippie,


Get a large zippper bag, these will hold all your cases.

Hope that helps.

Buddy

I have two cases that I carry in my courier bag, they contain some practice locks, picks, tension bars - a mini repinning kit (just in case I get bored ). I've even considered pencil cases (semi soft shell with zipper).

I'm working on a bogota set to cut my picks down to 3-5, it should be fun.

Thanks for the tip

[Raccoon]

Are these picks copper? Or is that a trick with the light?

[p1ckf1sh]

Buzzy, do you have a caliper? What is the width of your stock material? Is it sweeper bristle or wiper insert?

[undeadspacehippie]

Buzzy, do you have a caliper? What is the width of your stock material? Is it sweeper bristle or wiper insert?

This is hilarious - i was going to post this - I want to get some spring steel from a local supplier, cut to the dimensions (maybe a bit larger - so i have area to mess up with). I am not sure if there are street sweepers in my city and must go this direction.

[Buzzzy]

I think I need to clear some things up.

Ray,
The material that I used in this project was wiper inserts, i'm sorry for the omission, and any confusion , misunderstanding that this may have created. When you say the most you have ever twisted were three, I assume that you were talking about working street sweeper bistle at room temp.
I highly respect your skills as a craftsman, and I know that you understand your favorite medium well, if you say that three twists is the max, I trust your judgement period. Once again i'm sorry for any confusion my omission may have created.
I live in Florida, and with the sweat, and humidity my medium of choice is stainless steel. I use things like steak knifes,
spatulas, wiper inserts, etc. The only tools of mine that I have posted that were not stainless were the weighted wrenches, I had to sand the rust off, and reblue them to make them presentable.

I do think that twisting four bristles may be possible, but based on your information this would require heat, and a bit of change in technique.



p1ckf1sh,
As stated these are wiper inserts.
In thousandths of an inch
Width___ .50
Thickness___.028

When I said they "work great" I was speaking of the picks, not the wrench handles. The handles are not finished yet, they are still a bit long. I am going to shorten them a bit at a time, to find the sweet spot for my hands. I may then step off the widths as shown in the thread " More thoughts on wrenches".

Buddy

[Buzzzy]

undeadspacehippie,

Check your pm.

Buddy

[Buzzzy]

Update,
I spoke with Ray and cleared up a few things. He told me that he had never twisted more than 3 bristles as his concept was about fewer tools. I can see his eye as an artist, and his skill as a jeweler produces a product with elegant form and function.
My idea was to use the twist and nest together concept to produce more of a swiss army knife approach, several tools in a compact package. When Ray said he had never twisted more than three sweeper bristles, I thought that I would give it a try.
I clamped six sweeper bristles in a vice, and twisted them with a pair of vice grips, at room temperature. I left them unsanded so that it would be obvious that a torch wasn't used.
These are now rough blanks ready to be cut into any type of pick.
The first pic shows them nested together, along with one of ray's Bogotas'.
The second pic shows them spread out.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17422232993.jpg&s=x2
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17422304041.jpg&s=x2

P1ckf1sh, on the wiper insert the width was 150, sorry for the typo.

Racoon, No copper was harmed in the production of these picks.


Best wishes
Buddy

[p1ckf1sh]

P1ckf1sh, on the wiper insert the width was 150, sorry for the typo.

Ahh, thanks, that clears something up for me. And confuses me again. Seems like there are two types of wiper inserts. The ones I have encountered (locally) all were 2-2.5mm high (my caliper is mechanical, cheap and inaccurate, so...). The 0.150" you mentioned come out as 3.81 mm, while those I have (2,xmm) are roughly 0.08" or a bit more.

[Buzzzy]

I have a friend that owns a pretty large auto repair shop, European , Asian, and domestic. He has been saving me his wiper blade take-offs, I must have a couple of hundred at this point. What has suprised me are all the sizes, in my collection, I have well over a dozen types. I also have some of the size that you described. It seems there are quite a few makers, and models.
Another factor is the type of alloy used, some are rather soft, and suitable for wrench material, others are much harder, and make good picks.

After talking to ray it seems that there are number of sweeper bristle builders, and these also vary in size, compsition, and hardness. I just acquired a complete sweeper head, and by fortune it seems to be one of the better ones.

I have worked with machine tools for many years, and I am used to working with stock that has known properties, reclaimed material make it a little more challenging, but thats ok.

Good luck
Buddy

[mmilitiar]

i thought they were all the same size, also made my first pics with them^