Defiant deadbolts are so easy to pick

[kepiblanc]

This photo shows a Defiant deadbolt, a cheaper imitation of Kwikset deadbolts that are sold at The Home Depot. This Defiant deadbolt was on the front door of an apartment some friends of mine once lived in.

The tools in this photo are from Southord. The pick has a vinyl sleeve on it, something that makes handling Southord slim-line picks so much more easier on one's fingers.

[unlisted]

You should post all your "so easy to pick" locks in one thread..

well, thats what I would do.

Picking these locks is like taking candy from a baby, extremely easy, and lacks a challenge. (and leaves a hollow feeling in your soul- if you didn't sell your soul for lockpicks) that last part is a joke..

[Ray_Air]

Defiants are junk just like Faultless. I would never put one on any door. Besides picking them they are easily broken with a couple of hammer blows or a couple of good boots.

[globallockytoo]

whoever fitted that lock is probably european....cos it's fitted upside down.

if you can pick a cylinder that is fitted upside down so easily then it is most obvious that it is a very cheap brand.

if the lock fails because of a broken spring in the bible housing...you wont ever pick it nor bump it, you realise?

[kepiblanc]

whoever fitted that lock is probably european....cos it's fitted upside down.

Do Europeans really mount locks upside down that much?

if you can pick a cylinder that is fitted upside down so easily then it is most obvious that it is a very cheap brand.

I fail to understand how the upside down placement of this lock could have been a factor. For me, Defiants seem to be just as easy to pick when they are mounted upright, too.

if the lock fails because of a broken spring in the bible housing...you wont ever pick it nor bump it, you realise?

Yes, but I have yet to see this actually occur.

[Shrub]

NO we dont fit locks like that at all lol

[p1ckf1sh]

Do Europeans really mount locks upside down that much?

Almost exclusively. Maybe one in fifty or eighty locks is fitted like US locks. At least here in Germany.

[p1ckf1sh]

NO we dont fit locks like that at all lol

Contrary to public opinion the UK is NOT european. Think about it. They refuse to replace their currency for the euro. They still use that imperial measurement system. And they are even standing aside from the rest of Europe, separated by lots of water.

j/k

[kepiblanc]

In days gone by, I seem to recall hearing some British folks occasionally using the word "continental" to describe people and things from the other countries of Europe, as if to imply that Britain is far removed from all of those countries.

[Krypos]

hey kepiblanc-

how hard was it for you to slide your vinyl sleeves on? mine are neaerly impossible, and worse, my picks dont fit into the leather case if they are on. and putting them on and removing them nearly bends my picks.

howd you do it? do you leave them on? if so where do you store your picks? that and how big is your set? (yes you heard it, i asked him how big is his set, har har.) i have a 16 pc set and it fits well into the 14pc case, but not with vinyl.

how you doing it?


globallockytoo- it is in my own opinion that you are rather arrogant. you have less than 50 posts and you have been here one month and you talk like you own the whole place and it is YOUR RIGHT to tell people how wrong they are. why?

i think you are either a "pro" locksmith, "pro" meaning you have been doing it for XX years and know a lot, but think you know more than you do. in psychology we called it grandeur. OR you once were part of this community and were banned or lost your account otherwise and you are now back, but no one knows it is you.

whatever the reason...have some humble pie and calm down and dont talk to everyone like you own us because you know more about this or that or THINK you know more.

[globallockytoo]

globallockytoo- it is in my own opinion that you are rather arrogant. you have less than 50 posts and you have been here one month and you talk like you own the whole place and it is YOUR RIGHT to tell people how wrong they are. why?

i think you are either a "pro" locksmith, "pro" meaning you have been doing it for XX years and know a lot, but think you know more than you do. in psychology we called it grandeur. OR you once were part of this community and were banned or lost your account otherwise and you are now back, but no one knows it is you.

whatever the reason...have some humble pie and calm down and dont talk to everyone like you own us because you know more about this or that or THINK you know more.

Thanks for your opinion.

I may have few posts but...who are you to tell me what I can and cant say. This is a forum that solicits peoples opinions.

I respect your opinion...so please respect mine.

Yes I have alot of experience in the trade...and I'm still learning too...and I enjoy helping others with parts of the trade too. If some of my experiences help someone else to become more knowledgeable and solves some of their problems, then I feel good to help them.

If you would prefer that I not share the benefits of my knowledge and experiences....then either dont read my posts or have me gagged. If the admin at this site want to gag me, so be it....

I only joined recently and am trying to get into the advanced forums. I figure that in order to do so, I need to share some of my knowledge and experiences.

I think you can go back and crawl back under that rock you came from.

[Delta]

globallockytoo- it is in my own opinion that you are rather arrogant. you have less than 50 posts and you have been here one month and you talk like you own the whole place and it is YOUR RIGHT to tell people how wrong they are. why?

i think you are either a "pro" locksmith, "pro" meaning you have been doing it for XX years and know a lot, but think you know more than you do. in psychology we called it grandeur. OR you once were part of this community and were banned or lost your account otherwise and you are now back, but no one knows it is you.

whatever the reason...have some humble pie and calm down and dont talk to everyone like you own us because you know more about this or that or THINK you know more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite

[Delta]

whoever fitted that lock is probably european....cos it's fitted upside down.

if you can pick a cylinder that is fitted upside down so easily then it is most obvious that it is a very cheap brand.

if the lock fails because of a broken spring in the bible housing...you wont ever pick it nor bump it, you realise?

I think it was just inexperience rather than the person installing the lock being euro.

Upside down lock should be no harder than correctly mounted locks.

There is also ways to pick the lock when a spring breaks, you just use a long hook to set it up higher into the chamber.

[unlisted]

I think you can go back and crawl back under that rock you came from.

I am not taking anyones side with this one, (I am in no way involved) but I would say comments like this are frowned upon here.

I am not a mod, or an admin, but I know this is not a good way to continue your LP101 membership, or apply to advanced forums. (read the rules, its in there)

Getting along with others. (Pretty important stuff there. Not so much as never arguing, but being able to resolve disputes and getting along regardless.) (sorry for cut and paste, but I feel it is needed)

That comment is not in any way going to resolve anything.

Thats all I wanted to say, flame away if you feel the need.

[Schuyler]

I'm on with unlisted here. I'm very new myself, but it occurs that if one is going to talk about respect, that they would be the first to offer it.

I don't think anyone wants to see this devolve into bickering. (I suppose that's rather presumptous of me, but at least I HOPE no one wants to see that )

You also have 3 months from joining before you can even apply to the advanced forums. I can certainly understand the desire behind it, but it reads like you're tense. It's awesome that you have such a wide knowledge about lockpicking and great that you want to share it, but you can relax about getting into the advanced forums. It's like hurry-up and wait, you know?

Meh, I don't know, I'm new, but I do know that you can both be respectful when reading an opinion AND when offering one. It's worth remembering.

that's the end of my $.02